Any Green Aspies?

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I just want to ask, are there any Aspies who support the Green party of your respective country? I just want to ask what had attracted you to really support the Greens?

I'm not a green aspie. I'm a caucasian aspie.

I voted green party in the last 2 presidential elections. Its not so much that I am a green party supporter. It's more that I don't see a great difference between the republicans and the democrats and I dislike them both. I'm up for something new.

Haha. Nice one. But a tad politically incorrect in the place where I live? Lol

Anyway yeah why can't there be any political movements in North America that provides good alternatives, like those in Europe? The European Greens are really cool, as they are in joint power in countries like Ireland...

The Greens are Luddites.

ruveyn

Yes, they might destroy progress peacefully, but at least some say Green policies will keep the world running longer. We can't just dig all the way down to satisfy our unlimited economic wants all the way...

Green Party of Ontario: http://gpo.ca/

and of Canada: http://greenparty.ca/

Read up about them, if it strikes your interest, but they both basically boil down to saying "Oh, let's let the free market take care of the environment based on incentives... They do not understand common property problems! Pah, and they say the left has an issue with that.

Now... if we had what the lefties around here call a "Euro-green" party I likely would.
Oh wait, we actually do, it's been around since Tommy Douglas started it in 1960. It's called the NDP, (New Democratic Party) So, I guess I am.

HE HE, snaps, but not a very "green" ethical statement there, could offend and discriminate people who are green!
Yup, I am a greenie
Here in Tasmania( where the Green Party was founded, may I add, over the Franklin Dam Case) I think politics is quite corrupt( not much difference between labour and liberal- we had hung parliament this year with FIVE green seats- yay!) and all decisions are based on how much money the individual politician get get for him/herself.
Tasmania has a huge problem with forestry- world heritage forests are being cut down for pulp and woodchips- sent off to China to be amde into cheep furniture, and sent back here again for retail. Disgusting. Only the Greens are prepared to stand up for this.
Endangered species also live in these forests not to mention the hundreds( and even thousands as with the huon pine) of years old the trees are.
Greens also believe in equality and rights for all people( as Bob Brown is gay, legislation was introduced legalising gay marriage here. It was rejected. Not fair for the homosexuals in the state, even though I'm not one).
Greens do NOT support illecit drugs, despite many ignorant views ( ie both the labor and liberal election campaign incorrectly stated this on national television).
Would be pleased to hear from any conflicting views- nothing like an intelligent, civilised talk about politics!! !! !! !

p.s. Nick McKim in Tasmania leads the Greens here, he has a good mix of left wing and right wing views- I can see him running the state effectively, creating more jobs and benefiting the economy whilst ethically considering how we treat our environment. He has a good understanding of civil rights.

Since when the heck is stating one's skin colour not "green" not "ethical" etc?
or is it only when you're a Caucasian?

I wonder how long until stating that you're Male is also unethical.

if greens are so so over sensitive about PCness... I don't wanna be a green.

Yes and no. Given our current technology there is a limit to what we can produce or extract from the earth. There was a time when the only source of oil for cooking and lighting was either olive oil or whale oil. Well, one can grow just so many olive trees and the whales were almost brought to extinction. Then came petroleum. A new game in town. But there is just so much petroleum. But think! Who says heat and light have to come from oxidizing hydrocarbon molecules.

The word resource is partly defined in the context of available technology. But technology can change.

ruveyn

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Good point here. But I always tell myself, everyone is equal under one Earth, even males and females. We may be different but we are fundamentally the same as homo sapiens.

Yes, technology defines, in part, what we have as resources.
It also defines what our "resource base" is.

Consider the exponential growth in resource consumption, especially energy resources. Then ask yourself, if our technological growth is sufficient to expand the resource base of humanity sufficiently to meet energy needs, given the depletion of the "current energy resources"

The second question regards another "resource" and that is capital.
Where is the capital going to come from to build the infrastructure that would be needed to maintain said consumption growth. Infrastructure requires debt financing. The world as a whole has no more room for debt. Yet if we wait longer, we will not be able to build it fast enough... and might not even have the resources needed to even build it in the first place.

And a third question... Each new resource we find and exploit (at least historically) has always came with a "hidden cost" that we don't usually find out until we are not just exploiting the resource, but abusing it.
What will those costs be in the new "green resources"?

Maybe i'm just a pessimist. But i'm afraid this time around the cycle... it ain't all gonna just "work itself out"

I agree that we are all equal.... Period.

But just because we're equal doesn't make saying that your Caucasian wrong.

If all birds are equal... is it wrong to say "Oh, there's a robin"
Oh.. perish the thought, no.... We must just say Bird! You're being speciesist.

Let's try to be the ultimate in PC
I'm a white male. (nope, sexist, racist)
I'm a human (nope, speciesist)
I'm an animal (nope kingdom-ist)
I'm an organism. (nope, life-ist)
I'm a collection of atoms (nope... particle-ist)

I have to reduce myself to "an undescribed collection of mass and/or energy" Though sadly i'm sure that's unPC in someway too. Oh yeah, it might offend religious nuts who think there is something non-physical in a human as well.

*sigh* and i thought i USED to have a hard time trying to figure out just who I was... Now i'll never manage

Edit: Ooops, i offended the religious nuts by calling them nuts, didn't I? that wasn't very PC either, was it?
<note lack of apology>

My truck runs on pure vegetable oil, but I did it because my friends said it could only work in the movies. Not because it's "green". I am pro-environment, but anti-environmentalist.

What do I mean? I mean I don't like it when laws are written to fool the public into thinking something is "green", when the only green is what's lining the pockets of certain people. Any popular chemical or product that suddenly is found "environmentally unfriendly", is nearly always coincidentally about to run out of it's patent renewal statute. Hence, the company pays off the authorities so that it's made illegal, and their competitors can't make and sell whatever it is and run the price down. (example DuPont's R12 refrigerant). It was about to run out of patent renewals, and other manufacturers were getting ready to make it and sell it for 2c on the dollar. Suddenly and mysteriously, it became "harmful" after 70 or so years, and a new "friendly" refrigerant (R134) was introduced...... Are you ready? BY DuPont. Only funny thing is, the molecules in R134 are much smaller than those of R12, thus it is far more prone to LEAKS. Of course that's great, because the more leaky air conditioners, the more additional R134 to be needed.

Charles

I don't like green parties, they want to ruin my beloved beautiful deserts!

I didn't vote for Nader/Green. But I DO have an Energy-Star refrigerator. Who wants to touch me?