Atheists, what needs to happen so that...

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...you will believe in a God?

I'm just wondering since in my other thread it seems like its really hard for atheists to be convinced a God exists.

Does all suffering on earth need to end?
Do you need to physically see God?
Does science need to bend its rules all of a sudden?
A person punching themselves out from the grave?

Your thoughts please...

It certainly wouldn't be good enough for me to have some sort of 'personal experience of God' - if I started receiving what one could call 'messages from God', or anything like that, then I'd just assume that I'm hallucinating and need to seek psychiatric help.

The scientific view of the world has undergone many revolutions in the past. None of those would have encouraged me to believe in God had I lived when they occured, and I'm not sure why I should expect future revolutions to do so.

Lots of people returning from the dead, the end of all suffering, etc, could be evidence of interference from some higher intelligence.

Events in the future may convince me to believe in God according to certain definitions of the term, but I doubt I could ever believe in the God of the major monotheisms. I think such a God is impossible: a contradiction given the conditions of life. I know there are many people who have attempted the contradiction(s), but I don't consider any of them to have been successful.

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I need a harem of bisexual women, a six car garage, and 200 billion dollars. You may pray for these things for me.

Last edited by jc6chan on 12 Jul 2010, 5:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I was going to post a lengthy essay on what exactly it would take me to convert to whatever religion the OP is pushing but this will suffice.

Um... for the record, I do believe in God. Your other thread was just incredibly stupid.

"Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven".

I don't see you ever debating AwesomelyGlorious

Why? You think Hell is that great?

Sure, we'll go with that. The lake of burning sulfur part isn't my favorite but at least I still retain free will. If you've read revelations you know that no impurity will enter heaven.

I have debated him in the past on various issues. I normally don't get involved in arguing against the atheists on here because for me, faith is more of a personal thing. I don't have any proof for my religion, and I'm not interested in cramming it down others' throats when I still have my own questions to try to answer.

He does not want to be wrong.

As for what would convince me? I dunno, what could convince you to be an atheist? I mean, a complete revolution in one's ways of thinking is rarely perceived as to what it may be. As it stands, most of my view of reality is not very theistic or teleological when explaining the world, and few religions seem to match what I would consider reasonable in any sense. So... I think an outright paradigm shift has to happen, and this will require a plausible and compelling theistic interpretation of reality, and clear explanatory advantages of it over a non-theistic interpretation.

Reproducible results that directly point in a specific direction with regards to a defined deity.

Do you believe the Bible is true? That sounds like a stupid choice then. Besides, free will depends on how you see it. The Holy Spirit changes the way you think.

Of course I don't, but you'll believe it more than you'll believe anything from the non-existent book of atheism.