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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMM_T_PJ0Rs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]



I thought it was a pretty good video. Political implications, of course.

Right on!! !!

Regardless of whether you'd use it or not, it doesn't take an intelligence beyond that of a village idiot to understand that more crime occurs as a result of the prohibition than as a result of the product.

When was the last time you heard of someone smokin' up weed and going out and killing someone?
When was the last time you heard the same about someone after drinking?

You also cannot smoke yourself to death (OD), you can drink yourself to death.
Weed is less addictive than alcohol.
Weed makes people more pacific, alcohol more violent.
Brewing alcohol emits green house gasses.... Weed counters greenhouse gasses... actually it's one of the best plants for eliminating CO2

I could go on, but you know it as well as I do.

Oh wait... hrm... it would put a LOT of cops out of jobs...

Actually it does matter because most people who don't considering the penalties and the resultant problems of the prohibition just another reason why it should be illegal...because it makes them seem to be better people than they are and they don't have to worry about the effects of the prohibition firsthand.

Which means that they have the intelligence of a village idiot.

Not being able to see the difference between the cause and the effect is pretty well a good definition of idiot.

If I thought a Baseball flying out of the stadium caused the batter to swing the bat, well, either time got reversed while I wasn't looking, or I'm an idiot.

I wouldn't say that so much as it is a dual effect between apathy and one's consistent attempt to inflate and protect their own ego. It's not something that affects them and it's such a normal part of life at this point that it can be easily ignored.

I don't think that people are idiots* but I think they're inherently (mentally) lazy and short-sighted.


*though, if you believe the conspiracy theory stuff: then maybe almost everyone is an idiot thanks to the fluoridated water, other drinks, and foods.

Prohibition keeps the market value high.

That's obvious but there's other ways to keep a market value high...just look at the diamonds industry.

There is very very very big money in keeping the status quo. If you think the legislatures are on only corporate leashes you are extremely naive.

Of course there is but stagnant water is only good for pests.


Another industry to consider that would suffer would be the prison industry. Not to mention if there were full legalization like I advocate, the arms industry would suffer a blow as well since it would effectively limit the militarization of the police. The big boys don't like my position, for sure.

Edit: let's not forget that most religions oppose such drugs, too. I suspect for they have good reasons but no evidence to go on other than a guess of what would be at stake for them. It's pretty ironic when you consider that much of the visions that were had by prophets were essentially gnostic rituals that included hallucinogenic substances. But having the prophets acknowledged as taking shrooms (there's a hallucinogenic variant in the regions where they would have been having the visions) would disrupt the whole control process.

The US government, who is controlled by the arms industry, effectively forced Canada to repeal their decriminalization of weed a few years back.

If I were PM, i'd full out legalize it, and force the US to criminalize arms.... *sigh* not that it would work.. but it would be funny to try.

Speaking of the topic we're talking about... Think I'll have another.... uh.. flower, yeah that's it... flower. Hrm, it's ground pretty fine... maybe flour is a better word... green though... what kinda flour is that?

I'm for legalization but I always cringe when I have people want to legalize it because they want to tax the hell out of it. It was unconstitutional from the start. Half of what our government does now is unconstitutional.

Constitutions don't mean anything anymore now that corporations control governments. So stop worrying about it

What's the law against levying taxes?

I'm not saying that. I just don't like the reasoning that it should legalized because of all the tax revenue it would bring when the government had no authority to make it illegal in the first place. I guess heavily taxing it is preferable to people going to jail over it but we should be cutting spending not looking new ways to rob people of their money.

I don't think it's ever been used as a reasoning by itself but more rather an assumed thing that it's going to see a sin tax but that's a positive for more tax revenue. Even without the tax, there's still the boon of legitimate business and legitimate jobs not to mention the drop in the crime rate and violence. It's more of a part of a cumulative argument rather than something that anyone would consider as a standalone reason.


Oh...and here's another video related to the whole status quo thing and MJ's legal status:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMFd0zDAW0[/youtube]

No one's got a comment on the slave labor and how the prison industry owns our justice system?