My beef with the teabaggers

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Everyone knows about the teabaggers nowadays, I could criticise their political stance, but I'm not going to. Instad I'm going to criticise their methods.

Let's examine these guys. They're a bunch of perhaps the angriest people in America, most have a lot of of good guns, they think the president is trying to create a world dictatorship, why are they protesting nonviolenly? Why don't they launch a government overthrow and create a new country? "Second American Revolution" my arse!

I think the teabaggers are chicken.

The Dictatorship (or at least its basic nuts and bolts) were there before Obama became President.

ruveyn

Would you rather they attempt to change the status quo violently? I'm sure you'd criticize them either way regardless, but most people think non-violent change is preferable to violent revolution, even those in the Tea Party movement.

The tea party is smart enough to know that the amount that they and the country have to lose by violent overthrow of the government is unimaginable, and know that all other methods, no matter how small and unlikely, need to be exhausted first before resorting to armed conflict.

Most people don't realize how much was sacrificed in order to gain independence from the British.

M point is that thy dare call it a "second American Revolution" without living up to the word "revolution" and I suspect they aren't living up to the beliefs of the founding fathers anyway. Am I correct?

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
-Thomas Jefferson

See that word "blood" in there teabaggers? You guys say you agree with the founding fathers. Well, do you really?

Personally I have lost most of my faith that any real change can be brought about through democracy anyhow. I've lost faith in the system.

For the record, there is such a thing as nonviolent revolution, and we don't have to rush to refresh the tree of liberty with blood.

Our form of government was set up to allow change without violence, and the Tea Partiers don't want to overthrow the government entirely; they just want to "bring back" a government that follows a peculiar interpretation of the Constitution (not one I really agree with).

First of all, you may want to look up the meaning of the word "teabagger". It has nothing to do with politics.

Second of all, if you are referring to the Tea Party, who told you they were "the angriest people in America"?

Have you seen the typical protest organized by the Left? Those guys are physically violent, they assaulted several people in San Francisco during the Arizona law protest. Nobody reports the Left carrying swastikas, baiting police, and inciting riots, but a leftist network like CNN finds some (often, planted) whacko at the corner of some tea party, and makes it look like it's full of them.

The propaganda machine in the United States is doing a fine job brainwashing youths like you. I've seen it in Soviet Union, where our news network only posted news favorable of the government. CNN and MSNBC are doing the same. Hell, a senior correspondent on MSNBC chuckled loudly on air when his peer called Tea Parties "tea baggers" (which, if you haven't yet looked it up, is a homosexual slur).

That's news professionalism for you. Wake the f**k up, people.

monsterland wrote:

Yes....there's a certainly a far-left propaganda machine at work in the United States.That's why far-right propagandists like Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and James Dobson are NEVER seen on Fox and CNN and far-left ones like Noam Chomsky,Howard Zinn and Ron Kovic are nightly guests.

Please structure your sentences more clearly, because your punchline appears to be lost in all the sarcasm.

The problem with aforementioned poster (and you, apparently) is that you recognize Fox News as "right-wing", but you accept CNN, MSNBC, and the likes of Jon Stewart as "fair and balanced", as opposed to "left-wing" that they actually are. Jon Stewart, for instance, is boldly biased. He's nothing more than the left-wing version of Glenn Beck. A political entertainer.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, but it certainly doesn't align with plain out factual lies, such as claims of racism and violence regarding the Tea Party protests.

monsterland wrote:

I can't speak for the poster in question, but I DO NOT accept CNN, MSNBC and Jon Stewart as "balanced". Whether they are "fair" or not is another question.

Said entities are no less fair than Fox News IMO, but they all have a bias towards one side or the other. In any case, the "left-wing" elements in the mainstream media are about as "left" as Dwight Eisenhower on economic and foreign policy issues.

As far as social issues are concerned, they are no more "left" on those than that great conservative icon Barry Goldwater was.




Some of you conservatives live in a world of hysterical delusions that rival those which fueled the McMartin daycare trials and the Salem witch-hunts.

Talk about brainwashed!! ! The right-wing propaganda in this country has millions of Americans like you making Marxist-Atheist mountains out of semi-Keynesian (at best!! !) and secular molehills.






I'll allow Nietzsche's thoughts on "truth" to speak for me here. To be fair...I don't think violence at TP protests is much more common than it is at many other large-scale protests. I think i'm sophiscated enough to realize racists can be found all along the political spectrum. I'm sure there's plenty of racist tea-partiers, but there's also plenty of racist liberal democrats including ones in my own family.

Nonetheless, i'd say the disproportionate amount of violence AGAINST PERSONS comes from
those who hold views usually associated with the right.



When was the last time a Libertarian Socialist bombed the NYSE?


When was the last time anti-war protestor went on a shooting spree in a Military Recruitment center?


When was the last time a "militant" atheist tried to stab
James Dobson?

When was the last time a prochoicer tried to blow up Operation Rescue's headquarters?


Surely Fox news would be more-than happy to report such events.

Your attempt at wordplay carries no meaning.



And here we start with wildly speculative comparisons that hold no water. A "great conservative" would not provide selective bias and start a smearing campaign against Tea Parties on the air (like the CNN anchor Anderson Cooper and the other senior staff member, I'll call him "chuckles" because that's what he did when Cooper busted out the "its hard to talk when you're teabagging" on national TV... and I don't remember his name at all)

So, either Barry Goldwater fits the profile, or he wasn't a great conservative.

Bzz, sorry, try again!



You see, though, I wasn't born here. I came to America at 17, and like many other refugees from former USSR, I recognize the truth for what it is. The similarities between selective news coverage of such conservative topics as Israel and Tea Parties, and Russian news program "Vremya" and newspapers "Pravda" and "Izvestia" are staggering. Many Russian immigrants see this.



Nietzsche's words have no value to me. Never been a fan.



To be factually accurate, it is FAR LESS COMMON.



True. Many people voted for Obama because of the color of his skin, not because they knew anything about his accomplishments or views. This country is indeed, full of racists.



Blarg?



Ah, exchanging anecdotes now to support an overreaching viewpoint? It's a stupid game, and here I'll prove it. Onto liberal violence!

Ann Coulter cancels because of liberal physical threat:
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loca ... lumbiaHome

Liberal bites finger off a man who disagrees with him on healthcare:
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-f ... 5717.story

Obama lover takes gun to work and murders co-workers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Unive ... e_shooting
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivoro ... obama.html

Man flies plane into IRS building after writing anti-conservative manifesto:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/1 ... 67264.html

Liberals destroy AM towers:
http://www.newser.com/story/68673/ecote ... owers.html

Liberals burn down Hummer dealerships:
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/ex ... -in-denver

"Progressives" beat up a black conservative man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ

Someone fires shot at GOP headquarters:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicsel ... tack_x.htm

Liberals assault police in Berkeley: (this is very typical around here)
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/08/be ... -battered/

Black Panthers who intimidated people near voting polls weren't conservatives, either (a case that Obama promptly buried and gave them a slap on the wrist)
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/04/bl ... the-polls/

Liberals cause chaos on G20 convention:
http://cofcc.org/2009/09/actual-political-violence/

Don't be brainwashed. It's bad for your brain.

IIRC, the tea party movement began under Bush, Jr. The Wall Street bailout was the trigger. "Too big to fail" means you and I (USA) get saddled with paying the debt to fix something that should have been allowed to fail (nobody will come and bail the common man out if he makes poor business choices).

The people were vocal. DO NOT BAIL OUT WALL STREET. The government did it anyway. The outrage that government has no qualms about doing whatever it wants and incurring obligations running into the TRILLIONS of dollars (a debt our grandkids will still be paying) was the last straw..

You can blame Bush, Jr. for doing the same in two misguided wars, but he (at least) drummed up enough "public support" to make the populace feel the spending was needed. No such support existed for the series of bailouts that have come from the crash of 2008.

Teabagger... stance...

Hate crimes surge in US after Obama election

Man rams vehicle because it had Obama bumper sticker

George Tiller murdered

Baptist Minister Prays for Death of President Obama

Man charged in church shootings blames liberals & gays

Fort Lauderdale man assaulted by tea party protestors

And things like this have not happened before Obama?

What about far left groups like MOVE and the Black Panthers doing their foul deeds? Extremists have always been among us?

ruveyn