Can you be successfull in US politics without AIPAC support?

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Katharsistwo
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11 Oct 2010, 6:05 am

Possible or not?

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11 Oct 2010, 6:39 am

*in before flame-war commences*

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11 Oct 2010, 9:42 am

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

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11 Oct 2010, 10:10 pm

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

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11 Oct 2010, 10:29 pm

Katharsistwo wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

You hear incorrectly. AIPAC can sometimes do a lot of damage to a candidate they don't like, but they aren't the only powerful lobby.

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12 Oct 2010, 4:44 am

Orwell wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

You hear incorrectly. AIPAC can sometimes do a lot of damage to a candidate they don't like, but they aren't the only powerful lobby.

Then how come this crackpot american pro Israel policy?

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12 Oct 2010, 5:57 am

Katharsistwo wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

You hear incorrectly. AIPAC can sometimes do a lot of damage to a candidate they don't like, but they aren't the only powerful lobby.

Then how come this crackpot american pro Israel policy?

Well, you do have the AIPAC, but consider that Israel is one of the most reliable "pro-West" nations in the Middle East. That alone gets our support.

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12 Oct 2010, 8:25 am

Don't the 300 million americans think it's weird that 4 million of them tell the White House how to act in the Middle East?

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12 Oct 2010, 9:27 am

zer0netgain wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

You hear incorrectly. AIPAC can sometimes do a lot of damage to a candidate they don't like, but they aren't the only powerful lobby.

Then how come this crackpot american pro Israel policy?

Well, you do have the AIPAC, but consider that Israel is one of the most reliable "pro-West" nations in the Middle East. That alone gets our support.

They're one of the only "pro-West" nations because the others all hate the US for blindly supporting Israel. It's a flawed model based on a faulty assumption.

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12 Oct 2010, 11:55 am

skafather84 wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

You hear incorrectly. AIPAC can sometimes do a lot of damage to a candidate they don't like, but they aren't the only powerful lobby.

Then how come this crackpot american pro Israel policy?

Well, you do have the AIPAC, but consider that Israel is one of the most reliable "pro-West" nations in the Middle East. That alone gets our support.

They're one of the only "pro-West" nations because the others all hate the US for blindly supporting Israel. It's a flawed model based on a faulty assumption.

I'm ever amused that so many people, with so much land, hate so few people with so little territory for no other reason than they are different.

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12 Oct 2010, 12:04 pm

zer0netgain wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Katharsistwo wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Very likely so.

Money is the basis of the political machine, and while grass roots candidates can go places, you've yet to see them dominate any major political game field.

In europe, we hear you don't get anywhere without aipac's support.

You hear incorrectly. AIPAC can sometimes do a lot of damage to a candidate they don't like, but they aren't the only powerful lobby.

Then how come this crackpot american pro Israel policy?

Well, you do have the AIPAC, but consider that Israel is one of the most reliable "pro-West" nations in the Middle East. That alone gets our support.

They're one of the only "pro-West" nations because the others all hate the US for blindly supporting Israel. It's a flawed model based on a faulty assumption.

I'm ever amused that so many people, with so much land, hate so few people with so little territory for no other reason than they are different.

I always thought it was cool how the first few multipliers of 9 all add up to 9. 9x9 = 81 and 8+1 = 9.

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