Islam is a pro-Aspergers religion (unlike Christianity)

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10 Oct 2010, 6:40 pm

Hello all, I used to be a non-denomintional christian until last year. In church, many so-called "Christians" would make fun of me and bully, and especially make fun of my aspergers-induced quirks and idiosyncracies. I found this to be the case at EVERY church I went to. I blelieve this is because Christianity does not tolerate any kind of deviance from the norm. I mean when you look at the bible and read all of its silly morals and laws, its basically anti-aspergers, anti-nonconformist, pro-neurotypical, pro-conformist propaganda. It didn't matter if I was in a catholic church, a othodox synagogue or whatever... every Xtian place of worship was full of serious people who did not appreciate it my dark sense of humur and penchant for satire...

But then I started reading about Islam and it seemed like a much more accepting relgioun. I started going to Masjid ("mosque", to you heathens) and it was so much more welcoming than any chrurch i have ever been too... I felt like all us Muslims there were one big family, and actually, in Allahs eyes, we are. Nobody made a big deal about me being an aspie, or being a satirist... i went to at least 3 mosques in my area, and my experienc was the same at each one. I also found other muslim aspies who have reported the same opinions, they're all happier as Muslims! i think have found the best religion not just for myself but for all Apsergians and all mankind. What do you think? Do you all think that Islam is the best faith for Aspies? Do you think that maybe it was just the Christians in my area that were stuck up and stupid, or is xtianity in general just a dum and close-minded religion?

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10 Oct 2010, 7:28 pm

Are there actual doctrinal reasons as to why you believe Islam is the ideal religion for aspies or is it just that the Muslims in your area happened to be nicer than the local Christians?

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10 Oct 2010, 7:43 pm

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I fully understand your displeasure with Christianity. Christianity has at its center a subjective and sentimental modality. But Islam, although it is rule-based is also very bloody. How does Jihad, both the lesser Jihad and the greater Jihad sit with you? Are you cool with martyrdom? How about taqiyah (deceit and lying for Allah)? And do you expect to have 72 dark eyed virgins when you ascend to Paradise?

Have you thought it through thoroughly or are you running on emotion?

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10 Oct 2010, 7:49 pm

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I blelieve this is because Christianity does not tolerate any kind of deviance from the norm. I mean when you look at the bible and read all of its silly morals and laws, its basically anti-aspergers, anti-nonconformist, pro-neurotypical, pro-conformist propaganda.

No it isn't and no it doesn't. If you disagree, then list the "anti-aspergers", "pro-conformist" and "pro-neurotypical" propaganda. I think that you are projecting something onto the text.

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Nobody made a big deal about me being an aspie, or being a satirist.

You're talking about the same religion that we all know, yes? That is Islam, the religion that has adherents that have expressed homicidal intent to those who do not believe, who happen to depict their prophet, or destroy a copy of their holy book? Somehow, this seems a lot less tolerant than Christianity.

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Do you think that maybe it was just the Christians in my area that were stuck up and stupid

I think it is more likely this.

My basic reasoning is that Islam is a marginal religion in a society that does not accept it, that believes in conversions. It is going to tend to have to be full of people more willing to accept, and who recognize that they can't take their virtue for granted, or even their beliefs. Christianity is a mainstream religion that is widely accepted, and as such, people there are going to have to be more will take their virtue for granted, who can afford to be intolerant, and who can easily ignore their scriptures as it requires no real social loss to be a Christian.

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10 Oct 2010, 7:52 pm

In my opinion, a lot of organized religions are against those that don't conform to their ideals not just those with AS. :/

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10 Oct 2010, 8:02 pm

Thandurin wrote:

Are there actual doctrinal reasons as to why you believe Islam is the ideal religion for aspies or is it just that the Muslims in your area happened to be nicer than the local Christians?

Ya, that's what I'm wondering.

It's great you found some accepting of you but I'd prefer a group of people who don't have a strict religious dogma.

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10 Oct 2010, 8:08 pm

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The kindest words you're going to get here are from us atheists: your god is as fake as the rest of them.

/enjoy the biggots here who think you're gonna blow up a building just because you're a Muslim.

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10 Oct 2010, 8:16 pm

All I have to say is that Islam isn't a pro-Asperger's religion if your Aspie obsession is the taste of pork! :lol:

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10 Oct 2010, 8:53 pm

I could never conform to being a muslim especially as a female but good luck. I find the idea just as confining as any other religion and culture.

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10 Oct 2010, 9:03 pm

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All I have to say is that Islam isn't a pro-Asperger's religion if your Aspie obsession is the taste of pork! :lol:

Hunh.... and here I thought it would have been accurate depictions of Mohammed.

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10 Oct 2010, 9:04 pm

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All I have to say is that Islam isn't a pro-Asperger's religion if your Aspie obsession is the taste of pork! :lol:

No but you know coming up with our own religion wouldn't be a bad idea. :idea:

Maybe steal some of it from scientology only make xenu our friend.

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10 Oct 2010, 9:33 pm

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10 Oct 2010, 9:56 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Master_Pedant wrote:

All I have to say is that Islam isn't a pro-Asperger's religion if your Aspie obsession is the taste of pork! :lol:

Hunh.... and here I thought it would have been accurate depictions of Mohammed.

Part of the comment is due to my own egocentric bias. I don't draw often and fail to derive pleasure from the act of drawing, so that isn't a big issue for me. Pork, on the other hand ...

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10 Oct 2010, 10:02 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

I believe there is a bit of difference between western Islam and middle-east Islam, no?

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10 Oct 2010, 10:15 pm

greenblue wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

I believe there is a bit of difference between western Islam and middle-east Islam, no?

There are many fault lines in Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_Islam

When it comes to Muslims in North America, I tend to think at least Muslism who immigrate to Canada from overseas tend to be more liberal than the Islamic norm. Hell, the Canadian Muslim Congress wanted to ban the burqa while the Canadian Secular Alliance did not.

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10 Oct 2010, 10:22 pm

greenblue wrote:

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

I believe there is a bit of difference between western Islam and middle-east Islam, no?

Possibly, and it could just be that I am just very very ignorant of the distinctions. Honestly, my interaction with Islam is pretty slight.

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