DW_a_mom wrote:
You have every right to believe or not believe what you want to believe, but you have no right to mock the belief choices of others.
Why not? I mean, there are a lot of people who would mock political beliefs they disagree with. There are a lot of people who will mock the superstitions of others, such as black cats and all. Why not religion?
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The truth is, you don't KNOW that God does not exist any more than someone of faith can KNOW he does.
I entirely disagree with you. If you want to go through the arguments for and against the existence of God, I am entirely willing to do this at length and in depth.
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Both beliefs are based in an element of faith, but neither can be scientifically proven.
Scientific proof isn't what you think it is. That being said, it also isn't the gold standard in philosophical argumentation. But rather, the real issue is simply whether a close examination of the argumentation does lead to a particular conclusion. I clearly think it does lead to the conclusion that God does not exist.
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My AS son has used logic to conclude that God probably exists; just because your logic concludes otherwise, does not mean his is flawed.
Actually, yes, yes it does.
More seriously though, if our logics are different, then there is a very good reason to think that one person is right and the other wrong. Two people cannot disagree on a specific proposition and both be right, as that violates the law of non-contradiction. The best effort you could move towards is just to say that priors may be different, and that different priors will lead to different conclusions based upon the use of logic from these priors. (priors are basically the assumptions you start out with)
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If there was only one logical path to most choices and beliefs in modern society this PPR board would be incredibly quiet. Since it is not, one can conclude that logic as a process actually has a subjective element. Meaning - to say that anyone applying logic can never reach conclusion B is ridiculous.
Actually, no. You see, here's how PPR works:
There is everybody else, and they have all their opinions, which are wrong.
Then there is me, who is always right.
PPR is in part a process where I, the person who is always right, beat down everybody else, if their opinions are wrong.
That being said, many people do misuse logic, so I can criticize your argument on those grounds, as you didn't prevent another logical and very possible conclusion.