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16 Nov 2010, 8:17 pm

In a spiritual rumble between the God of the Bible/his angels vs the Gods of Mt. Olympus, who would win?

My current view is that the outcome could be a draw, subject to a rematch if there was enough public interest generated for advance ticket sales/cable TV interest in such a fight over eternal principles and values.

Precedent for the above:

King Kong vs Godzilla movies

God (Burning Bush) vs God Zeus (Mt. Olympus)

Your God is better than my God; My God is better than your God (Non-profit politics)

World Wrestling Entertainment production featuring the Superstars

Your view as to the winner?



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16 Nov 2010, 8:18 pm

Considering the "gods" and "goddesses" of Mt. Olympus aren't worshipped anymore I think we know who won.



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16 Nov 2010, 8:20 pm

pgd wrote:
In a spiritual rumble between the God of the Bible/his angels vs the Gods of Mt. Olympus, who would win?

My current view is that the outcome could be a draw, subject to a rematch if there was enough public interest generated for advance ticket sales/cable TV interest in such a fight over eternal principles and values.

Precedent for the above:

King Kong vs Godzilla movies

God (Burning Bush) vs God Zeus (Mt. Olympus)

Your God is better than my God; My God is better than your God (Non-profit politics)

World Wrestling Entertainment production featuring the Superstars

Your view as to the winner?


It could just be the sort of inflation of every supernatural being following the increasing knowledge we've gained as a species about the natural world (causing us to make Gods more super-powerful to the point of being extra-dimensional or trans-dimensional), but the fictional literary character from the Bible known as Yahweh seems fully omnipotent whereas the fictional characters from the oral traditions of Ancient Greece known as the Olympians are only uber-potent.


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17 Nov 2010, 11:48 am

Omnipotence wins.

None of the Olympians were omnipotent, and there's and end on't.


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17 Nov 2010, 2:50 pm

Well, Jehovah was only interested in the Jews. His jurisdiction did not extend very far beyond the Temple of Jerusalem. The Greeks had different Gods for different purposes. The Greeks defeated the Persian Empire, which is something that the Jews never did.



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17 Nov 2010, 3:49 pm

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Well, Jehovah was only interested in the Jews. His jurisdiction did not extend very far beyond the Temple of Jerusalem. The Greeks had different Gods for different purposes. The Greeks defeated the Persian Empire, which is something that the Jews never did.

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Agree with you. The God of Judaism clearly favored the Jewish tribes. In the Noah and the Ark story, God did not look favorably on the whole earth at all but only on about eight people who lived aboard the Ark. The Greeks had different Gods for different purposes including Poseidon, the God of the Sea. It seems to me that Poseidon could survive a situation where it rained 40 days and 40 nights because his specialty was being the God of the Sea. That's why I tend to feel that a battle between the Gods as to who is best could end in a tie and there would have to be one (or more rematches) to clarify it all. The Bible is a collection of stories of rematches between good vs evil, God/good vs the devil/the evil one so to speak (my view).



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20 Nov 2010, 7:05 am

Odin, Thor and the Norse gods would kick butt.

They are warrior gods and mean as junkyard dogs. Even their idea of heaven is to fight all day and then drink and wench all night.



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20 Nov 2010, 11:00 am

Actually, there will be such a battle, and the outcome is allready known in advance.
Revelation 12
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Michael is Jesus name when he is in heaven.

The Deil and his angels are where all those Greek and Roman legends come from, of gods coming down to earth, mating with human females and giving birth to demi-gods.

Genisis 6
1 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal[b]; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.



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20 Nov 2010, 1:16 pm

Nambo wrote:
Actually, there will be such a battle, and the outcome is allready known in advance.
Revelation 12
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Michael is Jesus name when he is in heaven.

The Deil and his angels are where all those Greek and Roman legends come from, of gods coming down to earth, mating with human females and giving birth to demi-gods.

Genisis 6
1 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal[b]; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.


Why would an omnipotent deity need to "fight"?

The fact that some people don't see that Christianity is no truer than any other ancient mythology is beyond me...



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20 Nov 2010, 2:10 pm

That spiritual rumble already happened and the gods of Mt.Olympus lost. They were pretty soundly trounced by Yaweh and the result was that they were no longer worshipped. To not be worshipped is to be deposed as a god.



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20 Nov 2010, 2:19 pm

Janissy wrote:
That spiritual rumble already happened and the gods of Mt.Olympus lost. They were pretty soundly trounced by Yaweh and the result was that they were no longer worshipped. To not be worshipped is to be deposed as a god.


So if that "Spiritual Rumble" has allready happened, what about its after effects in the following verses, "woe for the earth and for the sea, for the Devil has been cast down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time".

Has that happened?, if so when, and what where the results?, does this mean we are now living in Christs 1000 year reign of restitution?, if so, why still so much suffering?
And what about the rest of Revelation, its a series of events, seals being opened, trumpets being sounded, all leading to Gods people entering the promised land, just as prefiguered in the plagues of Eygpt before Gods people back then went into the promised land.

You cannot just have one part of the events fullfilled without the rest.



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20 Nov 2010, 3:17 pm

Nambo wrote:
Janissy wrote:
That spiritual rumble already happened and the gods of Mt.Olympus lost. They were pretty soundly trounced by Yaweh and the result was that they were no longer worshipped. To not be worshipped is to be deposed as a god.


So if that "Spiritual Rumble" has allready happened, what about its after effects in the following verses, "woe for the earth and for the sea, for the Devil has been cast down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time".

Has that happened?, if so when, and what where the results?, does this mean we are now living in Christs 1000 year reign of restitution?, if so, why still so much suffering?
And what about the rest of Revelation, its a series of events, seals being opened, trumpets being sounded, all leading to Gods people entering the promised land, just as prefiguered in the plagues of Eygpt before Gods people back then went into the promised land.

You cannot just have one part of the events fullfilled without the rest.


I don't equate the Greek gods of Mt. Olympus with the devil. The spiritual rumble that happened was for the minds of the Greeks. Christianity took over and Greek people started praying to a monotheistic God and stopped praying to the Olympians. In that sense, the Olympians lost because they ceased to be gods in the minds of their former worshippers and instead became what they are now, historical curiosities. This has nothing to do with the Book of Revelations. It's just the history of religion.