Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs[/youtube]




This commercial brought to you by the AMA. AMA: basically a union but without the title.

Yeah, Reagan and many other republicans opposed medicare and social security. Even GHW Bush did.

But Nixon pushed an employer health insurance mandate in 1971. The ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation pushed the idea of individual mandates in 1990 and GHW Bush's administration was drafting a similar position. To the right, individual mandates became a way to combat the idea of single payer (socialism) or employer mandates. In 1994 the Republicans put together a bill based on a mandate and later the Heritage Foundation backed Romney's efforts to get one in Massachusets.

Here's the Heritage Foundation paper pushing mandates:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Report ... lth-System

It should sound pretty familiar.

The voice has no emperor topic

Another ghost of Reagan past. This time, a cartoon.

When was he not a cartoon?

Uhhhh what exactly is the point? That public health care is the way to go? Ok we can talk about that.

EDIT: Ok I kinda get it. That it's hypocritical cuz Reagan has an anti-Union stance and AMA can be classified as a Union? I don't see any hypocrisy since the AMA has campaigned against Medicare in the 50's and 60's so I still don't know what the point is.

You do realize this is from his actor days. He was paid to do this it was not what he said/did in his presidency.

Reagan had made it quite clear during his Presidency that he felt government was part of the problem not the solution. He would have vetoed Obamacare so fast it would have broken the sound barrier.

Government has always been a problem. There are no good governments and there never were. There are only bad governments and worse governments.

ruveyn

It's not that the government is inherently bad, but the fact that's it's one big organization means it's not ideal for micromanaging so it can be unfit for the job at best and corrupt at worst. It's best kept to roles it can be streamlined in.

And what functions might those be? The U.S. Government can't even deliver the mail efficiently and that is a relatively easy task.

ruveyn

Well I believe the government's role is in securing the rights of its citizens so law enforcement is much better handled by the government than private contractors. Utilities is another thing that's best left to the government. Other than securing people's rights and handling industries that inherently lead to monopolies (as well as preventing other industries from becoming monopolies via anti-trust laws), everything is best to be left outta the government's jurisdiction.

Well currently Obamacare is null and void unless a Higher Court overturn the Federal Judge in Florida.

Also, the Obama White House has been found in Contempt of Court on a seperate issue.

No, the Florida District Court did not issue an injunction suspending the law. It's still in effect and going forward unless and until a Circuit Court agrees with the District Court and the SC subsequently goes along with both of them. That's years away even if the entire chain is in agreement.

The government is inherently monopolistic AND they have guns. Industrial monopolies do not force people to buy anything by force of arms. If you do not like what a monopoly is selling and how they sell it, then don't buy. (p.s. you can always buy your own electrical generator, and drink bottled water).

ruveyn

reagan is so yesterday.

I posted this in a different thread but it is relevant here:

Reagan forced an end to the Cold War and freed Eastern Europe from Soviet Control. Now while radical leftists hate Reagan for it, the people of Eastern Europe actually built statues of the man.

Polish admirers of Ronald Reagan say they will erect a statue of the late US president in Warsaw to thank him for helping to end communist rule.
They say the 3.5-metre (10.5ft) stone and bronze statue will stand opposite the US embassy in the Polish capital.

"The statue is a way for his legacy to live on," said Janusz Dorosiewicz, a businessman behind the private project.

In 1989, Poland became the first nation in Eastern Europe to defeat communism. Reagan died in 2004 at the age of 93.
"This is an entirely private initiative undertaken by Poles in Poland, the United States and Canada," Mr Dorosiewicz said.

"Reagan was the person who defeated the communists and opened the way for freedom in Poland," he said.

The organisers estimate that the statue will cost about 140,000 euros (£94,000).

It will be unveiled on 4 July 2007 - US Independence Day.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5366992.stm

In commemoration of what would have been Ronald Reagan's 100th birthday, the Liberal Alliance (LA) now wants to name a street in the capital after the former US president, reports Ekstra Bladet newspaper.

“Reagan won the Cold War without firing a single shot,” said Lars Berg Dueholm, the party's political group leader at the City Council. ”That makes him one of the 20th century's greatest statesmen and it deserves to be honoured by us here in Copenhagen.”

Dueholm, who is also a member of the council's street naming committee, where the proposal will now be presented, pointed out that Denmark has a tradition for honouring the greatest foreign politicians by naming a street or a town square after them, for example Churchill Park.

He said that the Østerbro district would be a good place for the new street name, preferably near the America Plads (‘America Square’).
http://www.cphpost.dk/news/local/87-loc ... hagen.html

So really, I think the left wing smear campaign needs to stop.