Would US Supreme Court support religious signage on moon?

Page 1 of 1 [ 15 posts ] 

pgd
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jul 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,624

05 Mar 2011, 12:20 pm

This week, the US Supreme Court declared Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas, USA, the world's one true Church. Would it be possible for the Rev. Fred Phelps to raise money for a moon landing so a large sign could be painted on the moon in large letters (visible from planet earth) which said: You're all going to heck unless you belong to the world's only true Church: Westboro Baptist from Kansas? Would this be legal or not? Apparently 8 out of 9 US Supreme Court justices believe in/fully support the Rev. Fred Phelps/his non-profit Church from Kansas.

- Politics, Philosophies, Religions, Moon landings to promote non-profit, tax-exempt religions; attempted humor, humor, irony, satire, reality, sad day for America - free speech/non-profit religions?/happy day for America/non-profit religions - free speech?



Philologos
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Age: 81
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,987

05 Mar 2011, 12:26 pm

That is even more stupid than the norm.

Last I heard, the US claims jurisdiction over some of Antarctica, but the moon is too far outside the three or whatever it now may be limit,

If you beamed advertising onto the moon from a base in the US, THAT would be a question.



naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 70
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

05 Mar 2011, 8:34 pm

Too late.

You know how "'Meow Mix' is the cat food that cats ask for by name."?

Well a few days a month the whole Moon already acts as a billboard for a particular religion.

The crescent moon is a symbol of Islam.



Last edited by naturalplastic on 05 Mar 2011, 9:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

05 Mar 2011, 9:08 pm

The US Supreme Court has no authority to make decisions over international Lunar Policy, no more then an equivalent body in Russia, Canada or The Gambia has any authority on such a manner


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


ASPiXiE
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 2 Mar 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 133
Location: Reading, UK

05 Mar 2011, 9:09 pm

Very good point about Islam.

All I have to say is that the moon belongs to Earth, not the US, and definitely not any one church. Nobody should be able to advertise anything on the moon, and also - why ruin it? It's a beautiful thing. How many astrologers would be happy if somebody put artificial star 'signs' in the sky to advertise things? It might be fun, but not if it's permanent.

Sorry but that's just ridiculous, advertising religion on the moon. I'm sure US law also states that every human being has a right to believe in what they want, which surely should extend to not being told that you're 'going to heck' if you don't belong to that church.


_________________
Aspiness! Aspiness! The greatest gift that I possess! I thank the skies that I've been blessed with more than my share of Aspiness!


DeaconBlues
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,661
Location: Earth, mostly

05 Mar 2011, 9:16 pm

pgd, are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you not understand the difference between "freedom of speech" and "one true church"? Or, for that matter, between "United States government" and "theocracy"?

Be that as it may, since Luna does not belong to the United States, it's a bit outside the Supreme Court's jurisdiction. Thus, there is no part of your question that is in the least sensible. One wonders why you bothered asking it. Is this some new form of trolling?


_________________
Sodium is a metal that reacts explosively when exposed to water. Chlorine is a gas that'll kill you dead in moments. Together they make my fries taste good.


sartresue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Age: 70
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,313
Location: The Castle of Shock and Awe-tism

05 Mar 2011, 9:52 pm

pgd wrote:
This week, the US Supreme Court declared Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas, USA, the world's one true Church. Would it be possible for the Rev. Fred Phelps to raise money for a moon landing so a large sign could be painted on the moon in large letters (visible from planet earth) which said: You're all going to heck unless you belong to the world's only true Church: Westboro Baptist from Kansas? Would this be legal or not? Apparently 8 out of 9 US Supreme Court justices believe in/fully support the Rev. Fred Phelps/his non-profit Church from Kansas.

- Politics, Philosophies, Religions, Moon landings to promote non-profit, tax-exempt religions; attempted humor, humor, irony, satire, reality, sad day for America - free speech/non-profit religions?/happy day for America/non-profit religions - free speech?


One giant leap for stupidkind topic

Since many believe that there was no real moonlanding, Phelps et al will have to find the fake moonscape used to simulate past bogus landings, film the sign and blast it all over Fox News to prove that it really happened. :wink:

If you believe...they put a sign on the moon. :P

Sad or happy day? Amusing. :twisted:


_________________
Radiant Aspergian
Awe-Tistic Whirlwind

Phuture Phounder of the Philosophy Phactory

NOT a believer of Mystic Woo-Woo


Oodain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jan 2011
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,022
Location: in my own little tamarillo jungle,

05 Mar 2011, 9:59 pm

pgd wrote:
This week, the US Supreme Court declared Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas, USA, the world's one true Church. Would it be possible for the Rev. Fred Phelps to raise money for a moon landing so a large sign could be painted on the moon in large letters (visible from planet earth) which said: You're all going to heck unless you belong to the world's only true Church: Westboro Baptist from Kansas? Would this be legal or not? Apparently 8 out of 9 US Supreme Court justices believe in/fully support the Rev. Fred Phelps/his non-profit Church from Kansas.

- Politics, Philosophies, Religions, Moon landings to promote non-profit, tax-exempt religions; attempted humor, humor, irony, satire, reality, sad day for America - free speech/non-profit religions?/happy day for America/non-profit religions - free speech?


is there a link for this?? if so i have to have it :lol:
wow :!:


_________________
//through chaos comes complexity//

the scent of the tamarillo is pungent and powerfull,
woe be to the nose who nears it.


Zara
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Jun 2007
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,877
Location: Deep Dungeon, VA

05 Mar 2011, 11:18 pm

...
This silly WBC stuff is getting kind of old now...

But to answer your question, no.
Because North Korea already has plans in motion to capture the moon and I doubt they will share it with the Phelps.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIgda01k6o[/youtube]


_________________
Current obsessions: Miatas, Investing
Currently playing: Amnesia: The Dark Descent
Currently watching: SRW OG2: The Inspectors

Come check out my photography!
http://dmausf.deviantart.com/


Philologos
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Age: 81
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,987

05 Mar 2011, 11:20 pm

Were they not at one point "selling" minuscule plots of lunar terrain? I am sure of the "put your name on a heavenly body" deal, but I THINK the moon claims also happened.

In the 70s, maybe?



DeaconBlues
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,661
Location: Earth, mostly

05 Mar 2011, 11:55 pm

I believe it was around 1967 or so that the UN adopted a treaty specifying that the Moon, like Antarctica, could not belong to any one nation, but was an international trust of sorts. That kind of put the kibosh on corporate exploitation of Luna - how do you do that when there's no legal structure in place to protect your investment?

There have been people selling "plots on the Moon" - which have about the same legal standing as the company that'll name a star after your girlfriend for fifty bucks.


_________________
Sodium is a metal that reacts explosively when exposed to water. Chlorine is a gas that'll kill you dead in moments. Together they make my fries taste good.


ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

06 Mar 2011, 4:19 am

DeaconBlues wrote:
I believe it was around 1967 or so that the UN adopted a treaty specifying that the Moon, like Antarctica, could not belong to any one nation, but was an international trust of sorts. That kind of put the kibosh on corporate exploitation of Luna - how do you do that when there's no legal structure in place to protect your investment?

.


In the absence of World Government there is no such thing (in reality) as International Law. There are only customs and protocols. Any government that steps up to prevent corporate exploitation of the Moon has essentially assumed ownership of the Moon. No one is allowed to kick my dog except me.

ruveyn



naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 70
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

06 Mar 2011, 8:42 am

The full Moon, with its patterns of dark and light, actually appears to have the Taoist Yin-Yang symbol emblazened on it naturally.

Check it out sometime. Maybe it helps to take a few bong hits first ( I and some friends noticed this in college one night).

There was a sci fi short story in the cold war era which started with the Soviets sending a rocket with an H-bomb and lot of red dye at the Moon. Upon detonation it spray pianted a big red star on the face of the Moon- pissing off the USA.


In real life something like that would be an enormous undertaking.

To make a simple dot that would stand out as visible on the 2000 mile wide disk of the full moon it would have to be - perhaps a tenth the width of the moon.

You would have to paint a fourty thousand square mile area. An area almost as big as Florida.

Thats an awful lot of paint! And thats just for a dot. If you want a legible symbol, like a cross or a star fo david, it gets more complicated. Forget about "eat at joe's" because legible lettering would be even less feasible.



sartresue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Age: 70
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,313
Location: The Castle of Shock and Awe-tism

06 Mar 2011, 10:03 am

Zara wrote:
...
This silly WBC stuff is getting kind of old now...

But to answer your question, no.
Because North Korea already has plans in motion to capture the moon and I doubt they will share it with the Phelps.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIgda01k6o[/youtube]


Bad Moon rising topic

Very Informative video. :P

Perhaps the WBC will have to merge with the Unification church. There might yet be peace in the far east. :lol:


_________________
Radiant Aspergian
Awe-Tistic Whirlwind

Phuture Phounder of the Philosophy Phactory

NOT a believer of Mystic Woo-Woo


ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

06 Mar 2011, 10:08 am

sartresue wrote:
Zara wrote:
...
This silly WBC stuff is getting kind of old now...

But to answer your question, no.
Because North Korea already has plans in motion to capture the moon and I doubt they will share it with the Phelps.




:lol:


Krazy Kim apparently never heard of Rouche's limit and gravitational tidal forces.

ruveyn