US Supreme Court says Westboro Baptist is one true Church

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02 Mar 2011, 11:52 am

US Supreme Court declares Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas, USA, the one true church

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Supreme Court OKs Protests at Military Funerals
ABC News - Ariane de Vogue - 30 minutes ago
The Supreme Court ruled today that the First Amendment protects members of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., who have held provacative, anti-gay protests at military funerals. An 8 to 1 majority affirmed a lower court ... (Google)

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"Speech is powerful," Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote for the majority. "It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and - as it did here - inflict great pain."
more by John Roberts - 19 minutes ago - New York Times (102 occurrences) (Google)

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If you're a card carrying member of Westboro Baptist Church from the state of Kansas, USA, you are saved and going to heaven.

If you belong to any other non-profit religion, you're unsaved and going to heck.

- The US Supreme Court has spoken (2011)

...No discussion allowed: convert to the Westboro Baptist Church (2011) of Kansas or die (so to speak)...

The law aka the US Supreme Court has spoken...

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Quiz:

According to the US Supreme Court (2011), what non-profit religion did George Washington belong to?

Correct answer:

Westboro Baptist Church from the state of Kansas, USA.

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...No questions allowed - convert or die...Facts are facts...

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02 Mar 2011, 11:59 am

Purely visceral reaction #1 - kudos to Alito for dissenting.
Purely visceral reaction #2 - Kudos to Alito, not to PGD. To PGD - do you even understand the concept of "free speech"?

This bit from the AP wire article was interesting, as a breakdown of who sided with whom:

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"Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."
While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights."


(edited to clarify.)


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02 Mar 2011, 12:14 pm

Alito understands the concept of free speech, this is a sticky issue and one where emotions can run rather high on.



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02 Mar 2011, 12:18 pm

Sorry, I wasn't clear - see my edited version.


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02 Mar 2011, 1:43 pm

pgd, I still don't see what the frak you're talking about. Are you under the impression, for some reason, that only "the One True Church" is permitted to exercise free speech rights under the First Amendment to the US Constitution?

Frankly, this post is incoherent and incomprehensible, even for you - and that's saying something.


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02 Mar 2011, 2:00 pm

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ted_States



Apparently the SCOTUS could do with some basic reading. :roll:


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02 Mar 2011, 2:23 pm

US Supreme Court says Westboro Baptist is one true Church - The USA Supreme Court is clearly endorsing the Westboro Baptist Church dogma/doctrine as USA law (2011). Rather than allow persons to hold their own private religious beliefs, the USA Supreme Court is saying it's ok for the Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas to start a Spanish Inquisition/a formal program of harassment against non-Kansas believers. That is tyranny by the extremist USA Supreme Court (my view) and a big mistake to formally back Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas dogma/doctrine as the one true Church of the USA.

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Web definitions for harassment

a feeling of intense annoyance caused by being tormented; "so great was his harassment that he wanted to destroy his tormentors"

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn - Definition in context

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Web definitions for inquisition

a former tribunal of the Roman Catholic Church (1232-1820) created to discover and suppress heresy

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02 Mar 2011, 2:44 pm

Bah, they probably didn't use the fighting words argument, no one does anymore.



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02 Mar 2011, 2:52 pm

pgd wrote:
US Supreme Court declares Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas, USA, the one true church


No. That wasn't what the case was about. Freedom of speech applies to all, not just some.
Humor works best when it's based on a semblance of truth.


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02 Mar 2011, 3:02 pm

pgd wrote:
US Supreme Court says Westboro Baptist is one true Church - The USA Supreme Court is clearly endorsing the Westboro Baptist Church dogma/doctrine as USA law (2011).


That is a ridiculous extension. They've upheld many unpopular positions on the same basis, we as a nation choose free speech. Use your argument and the supreme court agrees with the KKK, as well.

I would have liked a different result, some sort of "some moments are too sacred and private to be used for free speech platforms," but I'm not surprised by the ruling.


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02 Mar 2011, 3:18 pm

Will pgd convert to the Westboro Baptist Church? topic


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US Supreme Court orders pgd to convert immediately.
CAB News: Mariane de Pogue-20 minutes ago.


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Newest secret weapon: pgd has film footage of Jesus and sees this as an opportunity to save the WBC

Pgd really wants to go to heaven, and is convinced he will if he joins this one True Church.

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Then pgd will know he is not in Kansas anymore.

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02 Mar 2011, 3:22 pm

Breaking News topic

Please see my post in the other thread that pgd created. It is a must read. :P


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02 Mar 2011, 4:25 pm

The best way to shut them up is to ban religion, and make the country officially atheist.


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02 Mar 2011, 6:22 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
The best way to shut them up is to ban religion, and make the country officially atheist.


That would be unconstitutional at this juncture.

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02 Mar 2011, 6:41 pm

skafather84 wrote:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States



Apparently the SCOTUS could do with some basic reading. :roll:
Fighting words are defined as a:

-Breach of peace
-Incitement of violence

There is a huge room for subjectivity here. One could argue that violent one liners in action movies are a breach of peace to the psyche and an incitement of violence. What I would do if I was the judge is to recognize their freedom of speech, but classify the act of disrupting funerals as disorderly conduct. Just like how you can listen to your music at home, but it crosses the line when you blast the music and disturb your neighbours.



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02 Mar 2011, 7:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
The best way to shut them up is to ban religion, and make the country officially atheist.


That would be unconstitutional at this juncture.

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And then you must think about the irony :P