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18 Apr 2011, 12:33 pm

Thanks, Finland. You gave me a big smile this evening. :)

Go Finland! :)

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18 Apr 2011, 12:37 pm

Whats the great land of Sami Hyypiä done now then?



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18 Apr 2011, 12:40 pm

They've just had an election there. The True Finns are an anti-EU, anti-immigration protest party. They were the eighth largest party. Now they are the third largest (and will probably end up in government in some capacity). Not bad timing either. :)

This will piss off the EU no end. How dare an electorate say 'no' to them in such numbers. :)



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18 Apr 2011, 12:46 pm

Tequila wrote:
They've just had an election there. The True Finns are an anti-EU, anti-immigration protest party. They were the eighth largest party. Now they are the third largest (and will probably end up in government in some capacity). Not bad timing either. :)

This will piss off the EU no end. How dare an electorate say 'no' to them in such numbers. :)


As long as they don't put the mockers on the transferring there best football talent to the UK then I'm happy for them.
Sami & Jari Litmanen good exports from the Finns ;)



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18 Apr 2011, 1:03 pm

Tequila wrote:
They've just had an election there. The True Finns are an anti-EU, anti-immigration protest party. They were the eighth largest party. Now they are the third largest (and will probably end up in government in some capacity). Not bad timing either. :)

This will piss off the EU no end. How dare an electorate say 'no' to them in such numbers. :)


Good. I like anything that annoys those snooty European socialist centrists.

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18 Apr 2011, 1:07 pm

The EU isn't Socialist, if only. Their laws are one of the main drivers behind the privatisation of public asssets in the UK.



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18 Apr 2011, 1:07 pm

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18 Apr 2011, 1:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Tequila wrote:
They've just had an election there. The True Finns are an anti-EU, anti-immigration protest party. They were the eighth largest party. Now they are the third largest (and will probably end up in government in some capacity). Not bad timing either. :)

This will piss off the EU no end. How dare an electorate say 'no' to them in such numbers. :)


Good. I like anything that annoys those snooty European socialist centrists.

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You do know that rejecting EU control over Finnish monetary policy will probably enable Finland to enact a whole bunch of leftwing nationalist programmes, right?


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18 Apr 2011, 1:09 pm

Lol. Anyone would think that they got in. Not finished third.



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18 Apr 2011, 1:10 pm

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You do know that rejecting EU control over Finnish monetary policy will probably enable Finland to enact a whole bunch of leftwing nationalist programmes, right?


Yes; but it will be their choice; their destiny.



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18 Apr 2011, 1:10 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Tequila wrote:
They've just had an election there. The True Finns are an anti-EU, anti-immigration protest party. They were the eighth largest party. Now they are the third largest (and will probably end up in government in some capacity). Not bad timing either. :)

This will piss off the EU no end. How dare an electorate say 'no' to them in such numbers. :)


Good. I like anything that annoys those snooty European socialist centrists.

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You do know that rejecting EU control over Finnish monetary policy will probably enable Finland to enact a whole bunch of leftwing nationalist programmes, right?


I sit corrected. I had no idea.

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18 Apr 2011, 1:11 pm

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Anyone would think that they got in. Not finished third.


It's a pretty large settlement for any hitherto-minor protest party. One step at a time.



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18 Apr 2011, 1:12 pm

As a matter of fact, I recall a few years ago talk about an EU referrendum in France, with many Communists opposing the EU for that very reason.


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18 Apr 2011, 1:13 pm

Tequila wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
You do know that rejecting EU control over Finnish monetary policy will probably enable Finland to enact a whole bunch of leftwing nationalist programmes, right?


Yes; but it will be their choice; their destiny.


I doubt this government will be Leftist. Not if it has the Finnish equivalent of the UK independence party in it.



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18 Apr 2011, 1:13 pm

Tequila wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
Anyone would think that they got in. Not finished third.


It's a pretty large settlement for any hitherto-minor protest party. One step at a time.


I'm sure they'll end up just like Quebec's ADQ! :D


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18 Apr 2011, 1:13 pm

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I sit corrected. I had no idea.


The eurosceptic protest parties are all very different.

UKIP is centre-right, a mixture of libertarian and social conservative, they are EU withdrawalist.
DF (in Denmark) is national conservative but also quite social democratic, they are also EU withdrawalist.
PVV (in the Netherlands) is national liberal and culturally conservative but the main plank of their manifesto is their anti-Islamism. They are also EU-withdrawalist.
The True Finns are rather left-wing in economic policy but in most other areas are quite like UKIP. They are also EU-withdrawalist.

The point is that they are 'national independence' protest movements. There are very few libertarian-themed parties in Europe that are big enough, really. UKIP is one of them.