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22 May 2011, 8:13 am

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Actually I did in a way. I still think the middle east revolutions were caused by mostly economical reasons. I was also expecting them to domino and eventually reach other places. Spain is one of the EU countries that were hit the worst with the crisis, plus it keeps silly things like Royalty and Monarchy so it is not that much a surprise.


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22 May 2011, 8:14 am

In the bailout and potential bailout countries, there is a lot of anger there.

Pat Condell nails the situation for the Republic of Ireland:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6M8an_XKL8[/youtube]

Spain needs to leave the eurozone and probably the EU as well and be allowed to set its own affairs again.



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22 May 2011, 8:16 am

Hahaha no.


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22 May 2011, 8:18 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
Hahaha no.


You do know that Greece, for example, lied about its economic status to get into the eurozone? If the eurozone was a few countries around Germany (the richest EU member), there might not have been this problem.

Expecting the economy of Portugal to be like the economy of Germany or Denmark is just madness. They're two enormously different places. Even eastern and western Germany have very different economic states.

This bailout was forced upon the people of Portugal, Greece and Ireland and it will take them generations to pay off. No wonder they're pissed off about this. Time to elect politicians that put their interests first rather than that of the EU.

Problem is, though, that in these countries there isn't ANY anti-EU/bailout voice in any of the parties - definitely the case in Ireland. There is no UKIP style party in Ireland, for instance.

Portugal I think has a small anti-EU party on the right but in its infancy. Greece has a party called the Popular Orthodox Rally that's in the EFD in the European Parliament with UKIP, though some of its social policies aren't to my taste but our main aim is to get out of the EU.



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22 May 2011, 8:27 am

The point is that the "European protest party" movement is growing. Most of them aren't directly what you could call fascist, but some of them have some distasteful social policies. UKIP and the True Finns are the mildest of these. I wouldn't associate with all of them, put it that way, but a lot of their policies make sense.

On the 'populist right' you have:

UKIP in the UK
Danish People's Party in Denmark
True Finns in Finland
Party for Freedom in the Netherlands
Popular Orthodox Rally in Greece
Lega Nord in Italy

They're all very different but they all have a single-issue cause to rally around.



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25 May 2011, 10:17 pm

The so-called extreme right in Europe has been more vigorous a defender of the welfare state than most of the mainstream parties.