Would life after death "prove" divinity?

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so, there are an amazing amount of processes in this existence we have no clue about at all, if we even know of their existence.
in that light i would like to ask you all this, would life after death "prove" there to be a divine entity?, now i must admit i am thinking of the abrahamic religions here, many "religions" around the world is more philosophy to me than anything else and some of them speak of no divine quality whatsoever, more of the existence we inhabit and the quality of that.

What possible proof could be offered to support the claim of an Afterlife? A collection of apocryphal stories told around the campfire by bronze-age nomads?

Hardly.

IF tomorrow the world's first P/H Scanner [Paradise / Hell, that is] and we could record the afterlife activity of Abraham Lincoln and Ivan the Terrible, it MIGHT - depending on the results - suggest that some of the many statements about the afterlife made without P/H scans were more azccurate than might have been expected.

But of course that would not unavoidably require divine entity theory.

what i am doing here is a purely philosophical thread, it doesnt matter if we can measure anything in the real world.

what i am asking is, would life after death in itself be proof of a divine entitiy as implied by some religions?
or could life after death exist as a seperate phenomenon in the normal existence?

First you say,

Then you say,
Would you please make up your mind? If no measurement can be made, then it can not be proven to exist.

If it exists, it or its effects can be measured. As an example; while the human mind has so far defied direct objective measurement, the effects of the human mind are all around us - infinitely more so than any so-called "evidence" of an Afterlife.

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It couldn't hurt.

It's been a core prediction of most religions so there would have to be some credit where credit is due. But it would still leave many options. And there would still be no guarantee that any known salvation metric is accurate at all.

Don't see why it would.

I mean you're assuming that a life after death is only possible by divine power.

It could just be happenstance.

im not asuming anything, i was asking precicely because it could just be happenstance, that life after death actually might simply be a normal natural process, if it exists at all.
apearantly i was horrible at getting my point across, sorry about that.

@fnord
please note the quotation marks around truth in the original post, i know it isnt proof as in validated empirical evidence, but one can still investigate the implications and relations of concepts.
this is basically what philosophy is.

there might come a point where this could be measured and starting the discussion of what it proves now could come in handy at that time

No.

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Philosophy is also the Science of Reason. Guess what I minored in at university while majoring in electrical engineering?

That's right; Philosophy.

Your original assertion is based on the assumption that life-after-death is a valid concept when it is actually just an idea, which inherently lacks any degree of testability. This is analogous to a fantasy.

Now, if all you want to do is toss around a few fantasies, then please do not refer to the process as philosophy, as any pair of two-bit drunkards can swap ghost stories.

it is actually founded in the monotubular quatum interpretation of the conscoiusness, something that is a scientific theory being actively researched at reputable universities.
we dont have the means to prove or disprove anything yet, all we can do is think and discuss about it.

if this theory hold true and it's effects can be measured in the future then this is actually a pretty valid question dont you think?
now i am not speaking to the validity nor the probability of anything i am simply trying to gain some understanding fo what the consequences might be.
this was one of the avenues i started thinking about and i wanted external input.

here is a good read with several different views on how quantum mechanics has the potential to influence our brain, i found it a very good read, a bit long though.
linkage

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As far as I have ever heard tell, afterlife is never offered as a proof of divine entity. Afterlife and divine entities as separate propositions, yes; divine entities causing or administering afterlife, yes; some instances of previously used people BECOMING gods, yes.

But I do not THINK you will ever hear "How can you explain the fact that there are no many souls in heaven if there are no gods?"

Of course there is the possibility that "death" is misunderstood, although I doubt it. Perhaps we are all participants in some sort of game situation with no deity necessary. When we die, we merely return to the real existence and wake up to reality. And perhaps we are odd creatures living at the bottom of a sea of molten glass or maybe mere conscious entities out of the electrical properties of intergalactic gas or whatever else you can dream up. No angels, no God, just something rather strange, but alive.

It is much more likely that death is exactly what it seems to be: the end of life.

Not "... life as we know it."

Not "... life, and the beginning of another."

It's "... life" with a full stop. The Great Nothing. So dead that you don't even know it, mainly because there is no more "you" left to be aware. You're gone. Worm food. Dead.

i agree, but one can still discuss alternatives, how are we gonna learn anything if we dont?

Being prejudiced, as you also seem to be, I agree with you absolutely. But you never can know.