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10 Jun 2011, 5:57 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/10/busin ... s&emc=tha2

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Companies Spend on Equipment, Not Workers
By CATHERINE RAMPELL

Companies that are looking for a good deal aren’t seeing one in new workers.

Workers are getting more expensive while equipment is getting cheaper, and the combination is encouraging companies to spend on machines rather than people.

“I want to have as few people touching our products as possible,” said Dan Mishek, managing director of Vista Technologies in Vadnais Heights, Minn. “Everything should be as automated as it can be. We just can’t afford to compete with countries like China on labor costs, especially when workers are getting even more expensive.”

Vista, which makes plastic products for equipment manufacturers, spent $450,000 on new technology last year. During the same period, it hired just two new workers, whose combined annual salary and benefits are $160,000.

Two years into the recovery, hiring is still painfully slow. The economy is producing as much as it was before the downturn, but with seven million fewer jobs. Since the recovery began, businesses’ spending on employees has grown 2 percent as equipment and software spending has swelled 26 percent, according to the Commerce Department. A capital rebound that sharp and a labor rebound that slow have been recorded only once before — after the 1982 recession.

With equipment prices dropping, and tax incentives to subsidize capital investments, these trends seem likely to continue.

“Firms are just responding to incentives,” said Dean Maki, chief United States economist at Barclays Capital. “And capital has gotten much cheaper relative to labor.”

Indeed, equipment and software prices have dipped 2.4 percent since the recovery began, thanks largely to foreign manufacturing. Labor costs, on the other hand, have risen 6.7 percent, according to the Labor Department. The rising compensation costs are driven in large part by costlier health care benefits, so those lucky workers who do have jobs do not exactly feel richer.

Corporate profits, meanwhile, are at record highs, and companies are hoarding cash. Many of the companies that are considering hiring say they are scared off by the uncertain future costs of health care and other benefits. But with the blessings of their accountants, these same companies are snatching up cheap, tax-subsidized tractors, computers and other goods.

“We had an opportunity to buy equipment at a very discounted rate,” Mr. Mishek explains of his decision to make bigger investments in equipment than in workers. “Now that the economy has turned around a little bit, it made sense to upgrade.”

Hiring has some hidden costs, as well as the expenses of salary and benefits, Mr. Mishek added.

“I dread the process we have to go through when we want to bring somebody on,” he said. “When we have a job posting these days, we get a flurry of résumés from people who aren’t qualified at all: people with misspellings on their résumés, who have never been in the industry and want a career move from real estate or something. It’s a huge distraction to sort through all those.”

Culling the résumés takes three days. Then he must make time to interview applicants, and spend $150 for each drug test.

Once a worker is hired, that person must complete a federally mandated safety program, which Vista pays an outside contractor a flat fee of $7,000 annually to handle. Finally, Vista’s best employees spend several months training the new hire, reducing their own productivity.

“You don’t have to train machines,” Mr. Mishek observes.

Usually economists cheer on capital spending, and have supported Congress’s tax breaks for capital investment, like bonus depreciation, which lets companies expense the full cost of purchases immediately instead of waiting several years. That is because capital and labor can be complementary: a business that buys a new truck often hires a new driver, too.

But with the rising costs of hiring, companies like Vista are finding ways to use capital to replace workers whose jobs are relatively routine.

“If you’re doing something that can be written down in a programmatic, algorithmic manner, you’re going to be substituted for quickly,” said Claudia Goldin, an economist at Harvard.

To add insult to injury, much of the equipment used to replace American workers is made by workers abroad, meaning that capital spending is going overseas. Of the four pieces of equipment Vista bought last year, one was made domestically. The others came from Israel, Switzerland and Germany. (“I try to avoid buying Chinese at the workplace and at home,” Mr. Mishek said.)

Of course the shift to more automated production predates the Great Recession. And in the long run, better technology lowers prices, raises living standards and helps workers move into higher-paying jobs. This was the case with the mechanization of farming, which a century ago employed 41 percent of the American work force.

“We don’t have 11 million unemployed farmers today because over time farmers and their children transitioned into different sectors,” says William C. Dunkelberg, chief economist at the National Federation of Independent Business. “We don’t usually have this kind of shock, though, that displaces a lot of workers at once.”

Better technologies may eventually offer better job opportunities, but only if people can upgrade their skills quickly enough to qualify. That is hard to do in the short run, especially when so many displaced workers need to be retrained at once.

“People don’t seem to come in with the right skill sets to work in modern manufacturing,” Mr. Mishek said, complaining that job applicants were often deficient in computer, mathematics, science and accounting skills. “It seems as if technology has evolved faster than people.”

Some economists support policies that might shift the balance away from capital spending. Andrew Sum, an economist at Northeastern University, advocates tax incentives for hiring that mirror those for capital investment. Congress passed a hiring tax credit along these lines last year, but it was not well publicized, and some said it was poorly devised. The proposal is reportedly floating around Washington once again.

Austan Goolsbee, chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers, and many other economists say the relative prices of labor and capital are not the real problem. The biggest hurdle is that companies are loath to invest at all because economic growth is so slow.

Demand needs to grow for employers to be more comfortable with all sorts of investments, human or otherwise, Mr. Dunkelberg said.

Consider the booming 1990s, he says: Then, as now, capital was getting rapidly cheaper relative to labor, and then, as now, companies were increasing spending on capital more than on labor. But companies were investing so much money to begin with that labor spending still grew a lot. With a bigger economic pie, few cared how the slices were cut.



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10 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

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Workers are getting more expensive while equipment is getting cheaper, and the combination is encouraging companies to spend on machines rather than people.... The rising compensation costs are driven in large part by costlier health care benefits, so those lucky workers who do have jobs do not exactly feel richer.

If they had anyone smart at that newspaper, they'd connect the dots and figure out this is why Obamacare is such a big problem for the economy. Unfortunately they're blinded by their politics.



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10 Jun 2011, 6:23 pm

With the increasing availability of robotics and intelligent production machinery it would seem, from the point of view of the industrial producer, that it makes sense to cut all costs of production and specifically that of labor. What is lost in the process is the ability to provide funds to the market since the bulk of the market is provided by consumer workers. This has been temporarily solved to a very limited extent by the extension of credit to consumers to permit them to buy their necessities and support the market. But without a steady source of adequate income credit is only a very temporary solution since the money and its interest must be repaid to keep the process going and it cannot be repaid with a large unemployment situation. On that basis, saving money on labor expense merely means that industry is shooting itself in the foot. Capitalism becomes unsustainable. This is so obvious I cannot understand why most people cannot see it.



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10 Jun 2011, 6:28 pm

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pandabear wrote:
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Workers are getting more expensive while equipment is getting cheaper, and the combination is encouraging companies to spend on machines rather than people.... The rising compensation costs are driven in large part by costlier health care benefits, so those lucky workers who do have jobs do not exactly feel richer.

If they had anyone smart at that newspaper, they'd connect the dots and figure out this is why Obamacare is such a big problem for the economy. Unfortunately they're blinded by their politics.

Lies, lies, and more lies.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2011/05/18/report-employers-face-8-5-increase-in-health-care-costs-in-2012/

Healthcare costs are rising 8.5% next year, completely independent of health care reform..

Health care reform will save employers money... You should look into it before you mindlessly parrot talking points.


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10 Jun 2011, 7:15 pm

Technology + Global Economy = Cheaper Technology = More Efficient Means of Production = Fewer Jobs in developed countries.

Fewer and fewer people are involved in the three dimensional world of production and the pride that results from seeing the end product of effort. Many people now are slave to a two dimensional world and almost completely disconnected from the fruits of their labor.

What company interesting in maximizing profits, would choose a human that is subject to getting sick, or pregnant, or going postal, when they can be easily replaced by a machine with predictable problems.

Meanwhile the stress of those that remain in the workforce has soared in the last five years.

Capitalism is working better now for some than it ever has and the converse is true for many others.

I think the only way we are going to get more jobs is for the government to create them at taxpayer expense; but I don't see any long term solution to this, there are to many avenues in a global economy to keep Capitalism moving fast at the expense of those that can't keep up.

We are once again becoming a Hunter and gathering society. Hunting for jobs and hoping to gather a safetynet when jobs are not available.



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10 Jun 2011, 7:25 pm

But, if we really don't need the jobs, then we really don't need them.

The best solution would be earlier retirement, so that the older workers can get out of the way and enjoy themselves for a bit before they kick the bucket.



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10 Jun 2011, 7:34 pm

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But, if we really don't need the jobs, then we really don't need them.

The best solution would be earlier retirement, so that the older workers can get out of the way and enjoy themselves for a bit before they kick the bucket.


If you look at the daily news you will quickly see that retirement ages are rising, not lowering and work like teaching and health care which requires human workers is cutting back drastically on employment. The people in charge are killing civilization to enrich the already wealthy.



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10 Jun 2011, 7:41 pm

Oh, I know that retirement ages are rising.

Based on the old fashioned view that workers should support retirees. The solution usually followed to the problem of too few workers to support the retirees is to raise the retirement age, thus making things harder for people in the workforce by creating more competition for jobs.

The government taxes workers to pay retirees, but doesn't tax machines to pay retirees.

It would be preferable to tax the machines rather than the workers. The machines certainly won't complain.



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10 Jun 2011, 7:49 pm

pandabear wrote:
But, if we really don't need the jobs, then we really don't need them.

The best solution would be earlier retirement, so that the older workers can get out of the way and enjoy themselves for a bit before they kick the bucket.


I had a tyrannical boss, and when he went on vacation, and the second in command would mediate department head meetings, he would bring doughnuts in for a kinder, gentler, approach. We enjoyed the doughnuts and knew the relief was only temporary.

I find it interesting when people blame the government when there are no jobs, and blame the government when help is provided to people that have no jobs.

The private sector is in charge, and we are dealing with the reality of surviving in a more difficult world.

While the retirement age is being raised, I don't think longevity will necessarily remain the norm; stress kills, and that is the cliff that our efficiencies are leading some to.



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10 Jun 2011, 8:10 pm

The jobs really aren't needed any longer. In the future, fewer and fewer people will be required to work in order to produce all that we need.

So, what to do about it? Just let people kill themselves with stress?

A better solution ought to present itself, other than the standard "Duh...we need to raise the retirement age!"



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10 Jun 2011, 8:26 pm

I generally feel a lot of this comes from the pressure of Inflation. It becomes much more expensive to pay people a livable wage. It should also be more expensive to buy equipment to, but as was mention they had a bargain opportunity because of the Recession.

Regardless though in some areas increasing Automation seems inevitable. I think the people who keep working will be highly skilled tradesmen. For example I think an expert welder will still have employment even with Welding Robots.

Down the road I think Robotic equipment will encounter the problem of Specialization that many narrowly skilled humans have. Again a Welding Robot on the line has a very limited skill set designed to do repetitious work while a very skilled human may be ready to do MIG, TIG, or Acetylene or even go underwater.

Also worth considering is a simple refrigeration unit. It's there cooling, but eventually things break and we still have HVAC tradesmen.



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10 Jun 2011, 8:57 pm

Almost everyone used to be involved in agriculture. Now, less than 2 percent of the people are involved in agriculture. And, we aren't starving.

Lots of people used to be working in factories. Now, we have robots that can do a lot of the work. So, the jobs just aren't needed.



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10 Jun 2011, 9:20 pm

I would like to see an attempt at better training and education for people. Particularly Apprenticeships for Tradesmen. These are still around but not very much.

These days we have a severe lack of good Mentoring. In the case of companies training is seen as a burden. However what if employed Tradesmen wanted to make extra money by mentoring and their pay would come as fees from the student or apprentice?

I still see lots of jobs demanding a ridiculous 5 years experience because again they don't want to train. It seems like there should be a reasonable way to address this.

Unfortunately there are still many other costs but I think many of them are bloated. Such as the insanely expensive cost of medical care and health insurance. Or taxes, and withholding, which leads to paying for Human Resources and Accounting. The problems and costs are there but they've become much worse then they should be.



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10 Jun 2011, 9:28 pm

That's more true in manufacturing than other sectors.

In IT, they invest in cheaper people.



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10 Jun 2011, 10:23 pm

The only thing that machines can not do yet is think creatively. That is why the most employable people are those who have not only been trained to think, but those who can invent new things or come up with innovative ways to make or provide old things.

Wingnuts, on the other hand, are only useful in the short term, and are easily removed when not needed.

So don't be a wingnut, learn something useful ... like how to design a better robot ...



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10 Jun 2011, 10:31 pm

dionysian wrote:
psychohist wrote:
pandabear wrote:
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Workers are getting more expensive while equipment is getting cheaper, and the combination is encouraging companies to spend on machines rather than people.... The rising compensation costs are driven in large part by costlier health care benefits, so those lucky workers who do have jobs do not exactly feel richer.

If they had anyone smart at that newspaper, they'd connect the dots and figure out this is why Obamacare is such a big problem for the economy. Unfortunately they're blinded by their politics.

Lies, lies, and more lies.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2011/05/18/report-employers-face-8-5-increase-in-health-care-costs-in-2012/

Healthcare costs are rising 8.5% next year, completely independent of health care reform..

Health care reform will save employers money... You should look into it before you mindlessly parrot talking points.


Nope, it is cheaper for them to just dump their employees onto medicare and pay the fine, rather than deal with the nightmare of red tape. Fact of the matter is that Obamascam is making a lot of employers unwilling to really hire on part-time work either.