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29 Jul 2011, 9:08 pm

30 advertisement posters are going up in bus shelters from Anaheim to Mission Viejo in Orange County, California. They feature a picture of the Bible, and the caption "Have Doubts? So Do We." Total cost is about $8,000 for a month's worth of advertisements on dozens of bus shelters.

> Link to article in Orange County Register <

Some people object. I do not. This is an issue of Free Speech, Press, and Religion. If religionists can advertise for their beliefs in public, then so can the non-religionists.

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29 Jul 2011, 9:12 pm

If christianity is at war with nonbelievers, it should come as no surprise when there are volleys in response.

Though personally i don't spend money in the cause of random fluctuations in the time-space continuum.



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29 Jul 2011, 10:23 pm

Fnord wrote:
This is an issue of Free Speech, Press, and Religion. If religionists can advertise for their beliefs in public, then so can the non-religionists.

Your thoughts?


My thoughts? I don't know any Christians dedicated to insulting and marginalizing or extinguishing Christians. I do not know any who call atheists dimb or dishonest for being atheists. I know several who have the experience not of being in an atheist organization but of being atheists.

I think working to shout down people who believe something you do not believe is pretty dumb. And I apply that to an atheist who would put me down, a Baptist who would put atheists down, Republicans who diss Libertarians, Evangelicals who find Pentecostals problematic, and various combos of sports fans. For the record, I have not tried, nor would I try, to work against Transformationalists.



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30 Jul 2011, 12:45 am

In the UK we had posters on the sides of busses saying "There is probably no god so stop worrying about it and enjoy your life".
It was done by the humanism association. Atheists are trying to point out the hypocrisy of having different believes in our society about who or what god is and which god to believe in.



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30 Jul 2011, 1:53 am

Robdemanc wrote:
In the UK we had posters on the sides of busses saying "There is probably no god so stop worrying about it and enjoy your life".
It was done by the humanism association. Atheists are trying to point out the hypocrisy of having different believes in our society about who or what god is and which god to believe in.


How is it hypocrisy that different people have different beliefs? It would have been hypocritical for me in my atheist days to attend church services, and I didn't. But if my department contains [as one of them did] a Muslim, a Baptist, a Catholic and about three atheists [small department asnd not American, or the atheist to theist ratio would have been higher] where is the hypocrisy?



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30 Jul 2011, 12:01 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
In the UK we had posters on the sides of busses saying "There is probably no god so stop worrying about it and enjoy your life".
It was done by the humanism association. Atheists are trying to point out the hypocrisy of having different believes in our society about who or what god is and which god to believe in.

Actually, they are trying to point out that that focussing on the "Here-and-Now", instead of the "Hereafter" will make your life more enjoyable.

It did for me.



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30 Jul 2011, 12:02 pm

Philologos wrote:
Robdemanc wrote:
In the UK we had posters on the sides of busses saying "There is probably no god so stop worrying about it and enjoy your life".
It was done by the humanism association. Atheists are trying to point out the hypocrisy of having different believes in our society about who or what god is and which god to believe in.


How is it hypocrisy that different people have different beliefs? It would have been hypocritical for me in my atheist days to attend church services, and I didn't. But if my department contains [as one of them did] a Muslim, a Baptist, a Catholic and about three atheists [small department asnd not American, or the atheist to theist ratio would have been higher] where is the hypocrisy?


I see hypocrisy in the fact that different people believe in different gods. They negate eachother but cling to their beliefs all the same.



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30 Jul 2011, 12:22 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
I see hypocrisy in the fact that different people believe in different gods. They negate eachother but cling to their beliefs all the same.

It's like one drunk complaining about all of the other drunks in the bar - The hypocrisy of religion is that the adherents of each one complain about all of the other religions being false, when the complaining religionists offer no valid material evidence that their religion is the right one.

I see your point.

Well played.



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30 Jul 2011, 12:40 pm

reminds me of this one:


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30 Jul 2011, 12:45 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

PLEASE! Say it ain't so!

Such a nice Jewish boy ...

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30 Jul 2011, 12:51 pm

sorry... i should have warned with a spoiler alert!


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30 Jul 2011, 4:04 pm

Of course it's fine.