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19 Jun 2011, 7:53 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV5WkVK4yjU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
according to DANA MILBANK of the washington post "Glen is the leading purveyor of anti-Semitic memes in the mass media"
so is he the man to fix Israel.


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19 Jun 2011, 7:56 am

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according to DANA MILBANK of the washington post "Glen is the leading purveyor of anti-Semitic memes in the mass media"
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Can you point me to a set of facts that back up Milbank's statement?

I am annoyed when the Fundies root for Israel. I detest their motives. Jesus ain't coming until all the Jews are gathered in the Holy Land so they say. With friends like that, I don't need enemies.

Notice to Christians: Jesus is not coming back while I live. Why? I am not going to Israel.

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19 Jun 2011, 8:22 am

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JakobVirgil wrote:
according to DANA MILBANK of the washington post "Glen is the leading purveyor of anti-Semitic memes in the mass media"
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I am annoyed when the Fundies root for Israel. I detest their motives. Jesus ain't coming until all the Jews are gathered in the Holy Land so they say. With friends like that, I don't need enemies.

Notice to Christians: Jesus is not coming back while I live. Why? I am not going to Israel.

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i thought he was mormon


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19 Jun 2011, 9:26 am

It does sound like a hoot.

But, as I understand Mormon theology, American Indians also count as Jews. Do they have to go to Israel, too?



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19 Jun 2011, 7:24 pm

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It does sound like a hoot.

But, as I understand Mormon theology, American Indians also count as Jews. Do they have to go to Israel, too?


correct me if im wrong(I heard this second hand) but i think they think they're the new jews or the carriers of the covanent between israel and God, the new temple will be built in America, and America is the new promised land. Indians are fine where they are. I visited the Garden of Eden Adam-ondi-Ahman in missouri when I attended Skills USA VICA in high school (my instructors and one team mate were mormon). I didn't think too highly of the religious detour as we were there to compete in engineering and small engines but I learned a lot during my visit - they even had a gift shop with a book of mormon in Tongan - in missouri, that was a trip.


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19 Jun 2011, 7:32 pm

Well, here is some information on Jews and Mormons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Judaism

Guess what? Mormons are "Philo-Semitic!"

By the way, plenty of Tongans (and other Pacific Islanders) have become Mormons.



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19 Jun 2011, 9:40 pm

What I find hysterical is that no one here bothered to do any research on Glenn Beck's event, nor did you do any research as to why he's going there.

1. The international community is attempting to setup Israel using a bogus relief fleet for Gaza (this includes the governments of Canada and UK). They are deliberately trying to provoke an incident that they know Israel will have to respond because they don't need another couple thousand rockets fired from Gaza.

2. The UN is going to attempt to create a Palestinian state arbitrarily while making the borders so ridiculous that Israel cannot possibly defend itself (only reason they survived the last time was Israel struck before the other Arab countries got their units across the border into Israel).

3. Glenn is going ahead with his event due to President Obama clearly turning his back on another US ally.


Glenn Beck has chosen to take a stand for our best friend in the region, his rally is to show that there are people in this country that are willing to stand up and say we will never let another Holocaust happen again, not on our watch.

The really funny thing is that his rally proves certain individuals (including at least two who posted in this thread) to have a bad case of Beck Derangement syndrome because if he is publicly taking a stand for the Jewish people, how is he an anti-semite like you claim. I imagine you'll come up with some new load of bull to claim he is an anti-semite and personally attack me again for defending someone whom is being smeared.



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19 Jun 2011, 10:14 pm

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That sounds like it is probably correct.

So, what is Glenn Beck up to in Jerusalem? I think that Mormons buy into a completely different belief system concerning the return of Jesus, which, I think, will happen in America rather than Jerusalem.

By the way, plenty of Tongans (and other Pacific Islanders) have become Mormons.


speaking of mormons a friend of mine wrote this review of the book of mormon musical by the south park guys.

<<Link>>


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19 Jun 2011, 10:32 pm

Is it just me or are people bashing an individual simply because they happen to be Mormon, cause it kinda looks that way. I don't make this statement lightly.



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19 Jun 2011, 10:58 pm

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Is it just me or are people bashing an individual simply because they happen to be Mormon, cause it kinda looks that way. I don't make this statement lightly.


Oh no, are we gunna offend the sensibilities of an anti-Semite?
I love Mormons I grew up in the Inter-Mountain west.
As I have said before Glenn Beck is not a Mormon.
Real Mormons are Communists. Glenn is a convert to Cleon-Skousenism.
he apes the mannerisms of Mormons but his rhetoric is straight out of
the Protocols of the elders of Zion.
Take a look at the two Mormon candidates Huntsman and Romney
both from old Mormon families and the two most moderate republicans running.


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19 Jun 2011, 11:07 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Is it just me or are people bashing an individual simply because they happen to be Mormon, cause it kinda looks that way. I don't make this statement lightly.


Oh no, are we gunna offend the sensibilities of an anti-Semite?
I love Mormons I grew up in the Inter-Mountain west.
As I have said before Glenn Beck is not a Mormon.
Real Mormons are Communists. Glenn is a convert to Cleon-Skousenism.
he apes the mannerisms of Mormons but his rhetoric is straight out of
the Protocols of the elders of Zion.
Take a look at the two Mormon candidates Huntsman and Romney
both from old Mormon families and the two most moderate republicans running.



So again you smear someone as being an anti-semite for no other reason that it is the latest smear you think will stick, all simply because you disagree with them. I think it is substancially less likely that Glenn is an anti-semite than you being an anti-semite. If you saw his holocaust survivor special to remind people so something like the holocaust never happens again you would know he is not an anti-semite.



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19 Jun 2011, 11:28 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
Is it just me or are people bashing an individual simply because they happen to be Mormon, cause it kinda looks that way. I don't make this statement lightly.


Oh no, are we gunna offend the sensibilities of an anti-Semite?
I love Mormons I grew up in the Inter-Mountain west.
As I have said before Glenn Beck is not a Mormon.
Real Mormons are Communists. Glenn is a convert to Cleon-Skousenism.
he apes the mannerisms of Mormons but his rhetoric is straight out of
the Protocols of the elders of Zion.
Take a look at the two Mormon candidates Huntsman and Romney
both from old Mormon families and the two most moderate republicans running.



So again you smear someone as being an anti-semite for no other reason that it is the latest smear you think will stick, all simply because you disagree with them. I think it is substancially less likely that Glenn is an anti-semite than you being an anti-semite. If you saw his holocaust survivor special to remind people so something like the holocaust never happens again you would know he is not an anti-semite.


its not a smear when it is true.
I don't make lists of evil Jews destroying America (Glenn does)
I don't invoke the Jüdische Drahtzieher (Glenn does)
I don't compare Rabbis to Islamic extremists (Glenn does)
Do you think maybe he did the shoah special for the the same reason you have Jewish "friends"?
Its quite possible to be pro-Israel and anti-Semitic Hitler was. <<Link>>


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20 Jun 2011, 12:13 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Is it just me or are people bashing an individual simply because they happen to be Mormon, cause it kinda looks that way. I don't make this statement lightly.


Oh no, are we gunna offend the sensibilities of an anti-Semite?
I love Mormons I grew up in the Inter-Mountain west.
As I have said before Glenn Beck is not a Mormon.
Real Mormons are Communists. Glenn is a convert to Cleon-Skousenism.
he apes the mannerisms of Mormons but his rhetoric is straight out of
the Protocols of the elders of Zion.
Take a look at the two Mormon candidates Huntsman and Romney
both from old Mormon families and the two most moderate republicans running.



So again you smear someone as being an anti-semite for no other reason that it is the latest smear you think will stick, all simply because you disagree with them. I think it is substancially less likely that Glenn is an anti-semite than you being an anti-semite. If you saw his holocaust survivor special to remind people so something like the holocaust never happens again you would know he is not an anti-semite.


its not a smear when it is true.
I don't make lists of evil Jews destroying America (Glenn does)
I don't invoke the Jüdische Drahtzieher (Glenn does)
I don't compare Rabbis to Islamic extremists (Glenn does)
Do you think maybe he did the shoah special for the the same reason you have Jewish "friends"?
Its quite possible to be pro-Israel and anti-Semitic Hitler was. <<Link>>


1. I don't recall his list listing people by their religious affiliation.

2. What? You mispelled it so it isn't showing up when I wiki it.

3. When did he do that? Also as I recall you have frequently tried to paint Christians as being worse than Islamic Extremists.

4. What I think is that you are smearing Glenn Beck and smearing me because you can't win a debate on the facts. I think if this were my forum you would be at very least be facing a temp-ban for calling a fellow member an anti-semite simply because you disagree with them politically.

5. Hitler wanted to basically kick all the Jews out of Germany or exterminate them, he wanted to send them someplace and if they all got annihilated he'd love it. Quite frankly, I fear for some of my friends because all of the violence going on in the Middle East. I consider Jewish People to be just that same as fellow Christians only there is a disagreement as to whether or not Jesus was the son of God. In my view that is something that God will sort out when people die (preferably from old age).

I say this again, if this were my web board you would be at the very least facing a temp ban for your inflamatory remarks.



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20 Jun 2011, 1:36 am

Glenn Beck=IRL poe



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20 Jun 2011, 9:08 am

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Is it just me or are people bashing an individual simply because they happen to be Mormon, cause it kinda looks that way. I don't make this statement lightly.


Oh no, are we gunna offend the sensibilities of an anti-Semite?
I love Mormons I grew up in the Inter-Mountain west.
As I have said before Glenn Beck is not a Mormon.
Real Mormons are Communists. Glenn is a convert to Cleon-Skousenism.
he apes the mannerisms of Mormons but his rhetoric is straight out of
the Protocols of the elders of Zion.
Take a look at the two Mormon candidates Huntsman and Romney
both from old Mormon families and the two most moderate republicans running.



So again you smear someone as being an anti-semite for no other reason that it is the latest smear you think will stick, all simply because you disagree with them. I think it is substancially less likely that Glenn is an anti-semite than you being an anti-semite. If you saw his holocaust survivor special to remind people so something like the holocaust never happens again you would know he is not an anti-semite.


its not a smear when it is true.
I don't make lists of evil Jews destroying America (Glenn does)
I don't invoke the Jüdische Drahtzieher (Glenn does)
I don't compare Rabbis to Islamic extremists (Glenn does)
Do you think maybe he did the shoah special for the the same reason you have Jewish "friends"?
Its quite possible to be pro-Israel and anti-Semitic Hitler was. <<Link>>


1. I don't recall his list listing people by their religious affiliation.

2. What? You mispelled it so it isn't showing up when I wiki it.

3. When did he do that? Also as I recall you have frequently tried to paint Christians as being worse than Islamic Extremists.

4. What I think is that you are smearing Glenn Beck and smearing me because you can't win a debate on the facts. I think if this were my forum you would be at very least be facing a temp-ban for calling a fellow member an anti-semite simply because you disagree with them politically.

5. Hitler wanted to basically kick all the Jews out of Germany or exterminate them, he wanted to send them someplace and if they all got annihilated he'd love it. Quite frankly, I fear for some of my friends because all of the violence going on in the Middle East. I consider Jewish People to be just that same as fellow Christians only there is a disagreement as to whether or not Jesus was the son of God. In my view that is something that God will sort out when people die (preferably from old age).

I say this again, if this were my web board you would be at the very least facing a temp ban for your inflamatory remarks.

1. here is made a list of the Jewish people on the 9 most dangerous people.
· Propagandist and ad man Edward Bernays, who revolutionized 20th century public relations.
· Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, who was Bernays' uncle and influenced his method.
· George Soros, who Beck claimed shared Freud and Bernays' philosophy that people are "animals" who can be "experimented with."
· Cass Sunstein, who Beck insisted "is Edward Bernays" and has called "the most dangerous man in America."
· Former SEIU president Andy Stern, who Beck said is part of a self-proclaimed "intelligent minority" of powerful men trying to manipulate the "bewildered herd" of America.
· Walter Lippman, a prominent columnist of the mid-20th century, who Beck accused of viewing government "as a way to control people."
· Frances Fox Piven, professor at CUNY, who Beck accused of "sowing the seeds" of revolution.
· Ed Rendell, the governor of Pennsylvania, who Beck said thinks of himself as "one of the elites that are there to guide the herd."
2. It's German (misspelled hahaha) <<Link>>
3. Never happened. please cite.
4. so you give me the point that Glenn called Rabbis worse than Islamic extremists
5. You can still be an anti semite and pro-israel.

You got nothing little bunny. go home and cry in your nazi pjs.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:10 am

Here is another Mormon movie that looks like fun.

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi597623065/