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07 Sep 2011, 5:46 am

Please have a look at this latest outrage, the like of which occurs almost on a daily basis.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/new ... .Pakistan/

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07 Sep 2011, 8:49 am

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Islam, the religion of Peace

Shouldn't this be posted in the "Blatant Lies" thread?

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07 Sep 2011, 10:02 am

Fnord wrote:
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Islam, the religion of Peace

Shouldn't this be posted in the "Blatant Lies" thread?



The news story I cited is current events.


What blatant lies thead?


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07 Sep 2011, 10:36 am

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What blatant lies thead?


Fnord is agreeing with you. Certainly, anyone with any knowledge whatever of the precepts of Islam is a blatant liar if they call it the "Religion of Peace."


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07 Sep 2011, 1:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Islam, the religion of Peace
Shouldn't this be posted in the "Blatant Lies" thread?
The news story I cited is current events. What blatant lies thread?


Here --> "Post a Blatant Lie"


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07 Sep 2011, 1:42 pm

Taliban != All of Islam

I am surprised at you two, Fnord & ruveyn, and your blatant attempt to take extremist, fundamentalist actions as evidence that Islam as a whole is like that.

It's like being the average Christian and having to be responsible for the actions of the Westbro Baptist church or extremist Christian hate groups.

Did you know there are different sects of Islam just like Christianity? And that certain sect accounts for the most violence?

I have met many Muslims at both a mosque, an Islamic studies apartment, and just walking around my university doing their own thing. I read the Quaran, and it is no-more violent than the New Testament. Heck, when doing Jihad, there is a strong moral code that puts some of our contemporary warfare ethnics to shame.

Do not judge the whole by a part, least your judgement be unfounded.



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07 Sep 2011, 1:46 pm

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I am surprised at you two, Fnord & ruveyn, and your blatant attempt to take extremist, fundamentalist actions as evidence that Islam as a whole is like that.

It's like being the average Christian and having to be responsible for the actions of the Westbro Baptist church or extremist Christian hate groups.

Did you know there are different sects of Islam just like Christianity? And that certain sect accounts for the most violence?

I have met many Muslims at both a mosque, an Islamic studies apartment, and just walking around my university doing their own thing. I read the Quaran, and it is no-more violent than the New Testament. Heck, when doing Jihad, there is a strong moral code that puts some of our contemporary warfare ethnics to shame.

Do not judge the whole by a part, least your judgement be unfounded.


The violence of the Jihadis is implicit in the Q'ran and the Hadith. There are two kinds of Muslims. Those who have committed violence and those who have not yet committed violence.

There is nothing in either the Q'ran or Haidth that would impel a Muslim to forswear violence.

In addition to violence the Islam promotes hatred of Jews. I do not take kindly to having a target painted on my pink Jewish a**.

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07 Sep 2011, 1:56 pm

ruveyn wrote:
techn0teen wrote:
I am surprised at you two, Fnord & ruveyn, and your blatant attempt to take extremist, fundamentalist actions as evidence that Islam as a whole is like that.

It's like being the average Christian and having to be responsible for the actions of the Westbro Baptist church or extremist Christian hate groups.

Did you know there are different sects of Islam just like Christianity? And that certain sect accounts for the most violence?

I have met many Muslims at both a mosque, an Islamic studies apartment, and just walking around my university doing their own thing. I read the Quaran, and it is no-more violent than the New Testament. Heck, when doing Jihad, there is a strong moral code that puts some of our contemporary warfare ethnics to shame.

Do not judge the whole by a part, least your judgement be unfounded.


The violence of the Jihadis is implicit in the Q'ran and the Hadith. There are two kinds of Muslims. Those who have committed violence and those who have not yet committed violence.

There is nothing in either the Q'ran or Haidth that would impel a Muslim to forswear violence.

In addition to violence the Islam promotes hatred of Jews. I do not take kindly to having a target painted on my pink Jewish a**.

ruveyn


ruveyn may have a legitimate point.

The Jewish and Christian Religious texts are more laid out as a historical text would be. The Jewish and Christian Religious Texts, do not condone going out and attacking people in an attempt to conquer everything. Yeah their is violence, however it was a violent time period. That said, if a nonJewish nation had a treaty with Israel, and was abiding by the treaty; it would be considered wrong to break their end of an agreement and/or try to attack said nation. Jews and Christians are supposed to be men/women that keep their word, regardless of the fact it isn't to someone of their religion (I'm talking ideally). Whereas in Islam it is okay to lie to infidels.



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07 Sep 2011, 2:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Please have a look at this latest outrage, the like of which occurs almost on a daily basis.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/new ... .Pakistan/

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They were probably looking forward to their 72 virgins in heaven.



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09 Sep 2011, 12:08 am

Yep, I'm sure that none of the innocent people murdered by the terrorists were Muslims too. Not a one. And clearly all the Muslims in Pakistan agree with extreme terrorism, especially the families of the victims (the victims apparently can't be Muslims but the families apparently are). Because everyone in a broad group is exactly like everyone else in that broad group, and no one from that broad group can harm someone else from that broad group.



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09 Sep 2011, 2:44 am

techn0teen wrote:
Taliban != All of Islam


Maybe, but there doesn't seem too be many people willing to name a sect that is a model of what Islam is supposed to be like.


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09 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

ruveyn wrote:
techn0teen wrote:
I am surprised at you two, Fnord & ruveyn, and your blatant attempt to take extremist, fundamentalist actions as evidence that Islam as a whole is like that.

It's like being the average Christian and having to be responsible for the actions of the Westbro Baptist church or extremist Christian hate groups.

Did you know there are different sects of Islam just like Christianity? And that certain sect accounts for the most violence?

I have met many Muslims at both a mosque, an Islamic studies apartment, and just walking around my university doing their own thing. I read the Quaran, and it is no-more violent than the New Testament. Heck, when doing Jihad, there is a strong moral code that puts some of our contemporary warfare ethnics to shame.

Do not judge the whole by a part, least your judgement be unfounded.


The violence of the Jihadis is implicit in the Q'ran and the Hadith. There are two kinds of Muslims. Those who have committed violence and those who have not yet committed violence.

There is nothing in either the Q'ran or Haidth that would impel a Muslim to forswear violence.

In addition to violence the Islam promotes hatred of Jews. I do not take kindly to having a target painted on my pink Jewish a**.

ruveyn


Am I to take it that you've actually read and research the Quran from front to back and can back up everything you just said?



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09 Sep 2011, 11:20 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
techn0teen wrote:
I am surprised at you two, Fnord & ruveyn, and your blatant attempt to take extremist, fundamentalist actions as evidence that Islam as a whole is like that.

It's like being the average Christian and having to be responsible for the actions of the Westbro Baptist church or extremist Christian hate groups.

Did you know there are different sects of Islam just like Christianity? And that certain sect accounts for the most violence?

I have met many Muslims at both a mosque, an Islamic studies apartment, and just walking around my university doing their own thing. I read the Quaran, and it is no-more violent than the New Testament. Heck, when doing Jihad, there is a strong moral code that puts some of our contemporary warfare ethnics to shame.

Do not judge the whole by a part, least your judgement be unfounded.


The violence of the Jihadis is implicit in the Q'ran and the Hadith. There are two kinds of Muslims. Those who have committed violence and those who have not yet committed violence.

There is nothing in either the Q'ran or Haidth that would impel a Muslim to forswear violence.

In addition to violence the Islam promotes hatred of Jews. I do not take kindly to having a target painted on my pink Jewish a**.

ruveyn


Am I to take it that you've actually read and research the Quran from front to back and can back up everything you just said?


Actually, I have read the Quran from cover to cover for a Medieval History class thank you kindly, though I need to remember where exactly I put the book since I took the class a few years ago.



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10 Sep 2011, 3:38 am

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Am I to take it that you've actually read and research the Quran from front to back and can back up everything you just said?


Several translations of the q'ran (my Arabic is not good enough to do it raw) and the Hadiths. Do not forget the Hadath. Also some of the more later commentaries by Jiahdi enthusiasts such as Sayid Q'tab. That is the -Mein Kampf- of Islam.

Islam is a very bad religion. They worship a demon.

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13 Sep 2011, 7:00 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Islam is a very bad religion. They worship a demon.

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You realize that islam,judeism, and christianity are all religions that stem from the same early jewish beliefs and in fact worship the same god. Jesus was Jewish, the old testament is Jewish scripture, and Islam Accepts Jesus as a prophet, just not as the son of God. You would know that if you had actually read any religious material at all instead of blindly spouting ignorant hate.



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13 Sep 2011, 7:09 pm

They truly are a sick religion.

They murder their own children for being witches:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7764575.stm

Rape them:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 075981.ece

Withhold treatment because they are so ignorant:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/cscie ... nce28.html

Commit appalling acts of genocide and murder without remorse:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13559597

http://www.thenation.com/article/blackw ... ted-murder


Yup, bloody muslims are truly sick and twisted. :?