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15 Sep 2011, 6:55 pm

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/ ... tement.php

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15 Sep 2011, 7:11 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/09/michelle_bachmanns_anti-vaccine_statement.php

Oy. Louis Pasteur would not be thrilled.

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16 Sep 2011, 4:44 am

I have no problem with what Bachmann said about Gardasil or Rick Perry's mandating of it.

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16 Sep 2011, 6:58 am

O.o

i hope these tendenices wont be among the habbits exported, darn.

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16 Sep 2011, 11:45 am

Jacoby wrote:

I have no problem with what Bachmann said about Gardasil or Rick Perry's mandating of it.

I do.

Because these sort of crackpot fear-mongers cause a lot of harm to society with their anti-vax message. And it is scary a person of such level of idiocy became able to reach a high profile political figure status.

Anti-vaxxers kill people. Bachman's irresponsible and ignorant remarks are dangerous to the well being of your society as a whole.

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16 Sep 2011, 12:22 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I have no problem with what Bachmann said about Gardasil or Rick Perry's mandating of it.

I fail to see how questioning specifically Gardasil and Rick Perry's mandating of it is dangerous to society. It's a gross overreach of authority, unnecessary, and possibly dangerous. Not to mention the whole shady Merck deal.

Is she questioning measles vaccinations too?

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16 Sep 2011, 6:47 pm

Jacoby wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

I have no problem with what Bachmann said about Gardasil or Rick Perry's mandating of it.

Questioning Perry's way of handling that situation is one thing- even Perry now admits that he should have gone about it differently. But spreading ridiculous lies and slander against a vaccine that saves people's lives is irresponsible at best.

Her story about the tearful mother with the ret*d daughter was probably based on something she once heard about the measles vaccine. We know Bachmann can't keep anything straight, and that is the best guess of where she got that particular bit of nonsense.

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16 Sep 2011, 7:10 pm

Thought that Dr. Alvarez has the right approach to the HPV vaccine. It would be better if education of the vaccination was given, verses mandate. But at the same time feel over blown accusations of possible harm again the shot can cause needless worry with the public.

"Perry vs. Bachmann: Who Wins the Debate Over HPV Vaccine?"

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/09/1 ... z1YAC4rLEG

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First, the HPV vaccine is effective, but it does not prevent all cervical cancer nor does it protect against all strains of the HPV virus. It is merely meant to target the strains that have been strongly linked with cancer. These specific strains are thought to be responsible for 70 percent of cervical cancer cases worldwide.

The vaccine, called Gardasil, is manufactured by Merck & Co. and is delivered in three separate doses. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), since its introduction, it has been administered 35 million times, and to my knowledge, does not cause mental retardation.

However, unlike Perry, I don’t believe that the vaccine should be mandated by the government. I do think it is a good preventative strategy, and I haven’t seen any solid evidence to suggest it is unsafe, but I don’t believe HPV meets the same standards of other infectious diseases such as influenza or measles.

Technically, HPV is classified as a sexually transmitted disease, meaning it can only be passed through sexual contact. You can’t simply ride the subway and contract HPV from somebody sneezing on you, like the flu.

This is why, in terms of vaccine priority, I believe this one falls in the category where we should simply educate and encourage women to get the shots, rather than forcing them to be vaccinated. With a solid foundation of responsible sex education, people should be able to decide for themselves whether or not they want the vaccine.

So to sum up my beliefs, educate, don’t mandate.

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16 Sep 2011, 10:49 pm

Mrs. Bachmann is quite a loony.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/bach ... 51558.html

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17 Sep 2011, 12:44 am

Vexcalibur must really love Michelle.
Why else would someone be so obsessed with someone that doesn't have a chance at the poles?

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17 Sep 2011, 1:29 am

Bachmann's real opposition to the HPV vaccine is based in the notion held by many evangelicals that if girls are prevented from getting the virus, they will become sexually promiscuous. Bringing up the whole insane idea that girls with no previous hint of mental retardation can all of a sudden become ret*d even inspired the likes of Rush Limbaugh to attack her.

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17 Sep 2011, 1:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

See my reply to Vexcaliber's other Bachman campaign thread.
Nice to see that you'r a Limbaugh fan......

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17 Sep 2011, 2:07 am

Raptor wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

See my reply to Vexcaliber's other Bachman campaign thread.
Nice to see that you'r a Limbaugh fan......

Limbaugh fan - - ha, ha!

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17 Sep 2011, 9:13 am

Raptor wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

See my reply to Vexcaliber's other Bachman campaign thread.
Nice to see that you'r a Limbaugh fan......

Raptor, Kraichgauer is not making that up. Concerns about "encouraging promiscuity" have been cited by opponents of this life-saving vaccine.

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17 Sep 2011, 9:31 am

Orwell wrote:

Raptor wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

See my reply to Vexcaliber's other Bachman campaign thread.
Nice to see that you'r a Limbaugh fan......

Raptor, Kraichgauer is not making that up. Concerns about "encouraging promiscuity" have been cited by opponents of this life-saving vaccine.

I was being sarcastic..............duh

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17 Sep 2011, 11:24 am

You should know better than to use sarcasm on a forum for Aspies. Especially on serious topics such as PPR.

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