True face of the Tea Party

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Oh please they are just republicans.
I think Dr Paul handled it well.

Bread and circuses

Well Ron Paul pointed out that some Hospitals may have Church affiliations that help people out who can't even afford the insurance or medical care.

In my own hometown there is a free clinic run by the Episcopal Church. There is help out there.

But there is still the problem of escalating cost which Paul also pointed out and that is a major part of the problem. If it wasn't for that maybe the hypothetical 30 something year old might need the insurance and could afford treatment for say Appendicitis out of pocket.

I know though while I was fortunately insured at the time I had to have my gall bladder out and the bill was about 30,000 while I wound up owing close to 10,000. I do really appreciate the skill of the surgeon but that cost more then the average new car for surgery and 3 days in the hospital for recovery.

Also in this country you might think you're insured by your employer's program and find out you're not. It's not much different then people who have had their houses flooded by a hurricane and then find out in the small print many damaged items are not covered.

I've heard some people find the same thing with certain medical conditions having different ranges of coverage.

Or even worse you have Company Insurance, you have a serious illness putting you out of commission, so you lose your job and then your insurance. You thought you were being responsible and now you're f****d.

National Health Care: The efficiency of the post office, the compassion of the IRS, all at pentagon prices......

Can anyone else see the writing on the wall?

Doesn't even Canada primarily run their socialized healthcare through the Provinces instead all of it in Ottawa?

That's that crazy thing about all attempts to push social programs on America. They want to run everything out of Washington D.C. as single massive programs. At least that's how it seems to me.

Well to the main topic the reaction is awkward, but are they cheering at some unfortunate person dying, or cheering just at the concept that the government isn't bailing out someone?

It could be people have really had it with government bailouts. Now suppose the hypothetical situation posed by Wolf Blitzer had been that a person's house was flooded by Hurricane Irene and no Federal Agency was offering aid?

The Tea Party would probably cheer at that to. Not so much that someone's house was wrecked, but that the Government was not bailing them out. Not just because of the tax money spent but also encouraging them to rebuild again in a Flood Zone and have it happen again.

I find the whole health care debate in the United States rather tedious. The libertarian views being put forward by Ruveyn and Raptor are no doubt logically sound, it does not follow that someone could not have an equally coherent position based on different principles. Since I subscribe to the idea that we are actually our brother's keepers, the libertarian position put forward by Dr. Paul is irreconcilable with my own principles.

We are a collection of individuals, yes, but we live in a community. It is not all community or all individual, that is a lie. I can respect that some people want to sit in those camps but there is a middle ground. The US has a fantastic health system if you can pay for it, European countries have a fantastic heath system despite the fact that, in many cases, they can't pay for it. The attempts to portray the debate as if there are only these two methods of providing health care is just plain wrong. Since, the whole time you have been having this debate, Australia, New Zealand and Canada go on providing fantastic health care derived from a blended system of both. No doubt these systems have their problems, but none are systemic. Australia can afford its health care for all, I have private heath insurance, that I pay for with my own money but I know that if I fall on hard times, a system is there for me under a public option. There are incentives for holding private health, shorter wait times for treatments that are not life threatening, private hospital rooms and tax benefits etc. Sure, there will be moochers, but that is the price you pay for living with guarantee of coverage.