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Sadly what's even more amazing to me - I never knew they owned slaves! Kids, you just won't learn about this kind of thing in public school.
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Sadly what's even more amazing to me - I never knew they owned slaves! Kids, you just won't learn about this kind of thing in public school.
"Cherokee Freedmen" refers to the African-American men and women who were formerly slaves of the Cherokee before and after the Trail of Tears and removal to Indian Territory. It also includes the descendants of the slaves, as well as those born in unions between formerly enslaved or enslaved African-Americans and Cherokee tribal members.
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You do not learn about the geneocide the United States Of American committed against american indians in school either
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Sadly what's even more amazing to me - I never knew they owned slaves! Kids, you just won't learn about this kind of thing in public school.
"Cherokee Freedmen" refers to the African-American men and women who were formerly slaves of the Cherokee before and after the Trail of Tears and removal to Indian Territory. It also includes the descendants of the slaves, as well as those born in unions between formerly enslaved or enslaved African-Americans and Cherokee tribal members.
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You do not learn about the geneocide the United States Of American committed against american indians in school either
The later we are really strange about, and then we seem to have people who claimed that most Native Americans met with genocide and others saying that the US assimilated far more than were killed. I'd love to know how much of each of these really happened.
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Sadly what's even more amazing to me - I never knew they owned slaves! Kids, you just won't learn about this kind of thing in public school.
"Cherokee Freedmen" refers to the African-American men and women who were formerly slaves of the Cherokee before and after the Trail of Tears and removal to Indian Territory. It also includes the descendants of the slaves, as well as those born in unions between formerly enslaved or enslaved African-Americans and Cherokee tribal members.
BTW!
You do not learn about the geneocide the United States Of American committed against american indians in school either
The later we are really strange about, and then we seem to have people who claimed that most Native Americans met with genocide and others saying that the US assimilated far more than were killed. I'd love to know how much of each of these really happened.
The real story is neither or both.
around 90% of the american indigenous people died of European disease within a few generations
of the Columbian contact.
the remainder where genocided assimilated, and put on the rez.
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Sadly what's even more amazing to me - I never knew they owned slaves! Kids, you just won't learn about this kind of thing in public school.
"Cherokee Freedmen" refers to the African-American men and women who were formerly slaves of the Cherokee before and after the Trail of Tears and removal to Indian Territory. It also includes the descendants of the slaves, as well as those born in unions between formerly enslaved or enslaved African-Americans and Cherokee tribal members.
BTW!
You do not learn about the geneocide the United States Of American committed against american indians in school either
The later we are really strange about, and then we seem to have people who claimed that most Native Americans met with genocide and others saying that the US assimilated far more than were killed. I'd love to know how much of each of these really happened.
The real story is neither or both.
around 90% of the american indigenous people died of European disease within a few generations
of the Columbian contact.
the remainder where genocided assimilated, and put on the rez.
In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years, five million were dead. Las Casas, the primary historian of the Columbian era, writes of many accounts of the horrors that the Spanish colonists inflicted upon the indigenous population: hanging them en mass, hacking their children into pieces to be used as dog feed, and other horrid cruelties. The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today.
Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed. Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. "Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians.
The Removal Act of 1830 set into motion a series of events which led to the "Trail of Tears" in 1838, a forced march of the Cherokees, resulting in the destruction of most of the Cherokee population." The concentration of American Indians in small geographic areas, and the scattering of them from their homelands, caused increased death, primarily because of associated military actions, disease, starvation, extremely harsh conditions during the moves, and the resulting destruction of ways of life.
During American expansion into the western frontier, one primary effort to destroy the Indian way of life was the attempts of the U.S. government to make farmers and cattle ranchers of the Indians. In addition, one of the most substantial methods was the premeditated destructions of flora and fauna which the American Indians used for food and a variety of other purposes. We now also know that the Indians were intentionally exposed to smallpox by Europeans. The discovery of gold in California, early in 1848, prompted American migration and expansion into the west. The greed of Americans for money and land was rejuvenated with the Homestead Act of 1862. In California and Texas there was blatant genocide of Indians by non-Indians during certain historic periods. In California, the decrease from about a quarter of a million to less than 20,000 is primarily due to the cruelties and wholesale massacres perpetrated by the miners and early settlers. Indian education began with forts erected by Jesuits, in which indigenous youths were incarcerated, indoctrinated with non-indigenous Christian values, and forced into manual labor. These children were forcibly removed from their parents by soldiers and many times never saw their families until later in their adulthood. This was after their value systems and knowledge had been supplanted with colonial thinking. One of the foundations of the U.S. imperialist strategy was to replace traditional leadership of the various indigenous nations with indoctrinated "graduates" of white "schools," in order to expedite compliance with U.S. goals and expansion.
Probably one of the most ruinous acts to the Indians was the disappearance of the buffalo. For the Indians who lived on the Plains, life depended on the buffalo. At the beginning of the nineteenth century, there were an estimated forty million buffalo, but between 1830 and 1888 there was a rapid, systematic extermination culminating in the sudden slaughter of the only two remaining Plain herds. By around 1895, the formerly vast buffalo populations were practically extinct. The slaughter occurred because of the economic value of buffalo hides to Americans and because the animals were in the way of the rapidly westward expanding population. The end result was widescale starvation and the social and cultural disintegration of many Plains tribes.
Genocide entered international law for the first time in 1948; the international community took notice when Europeans (Jews, Poles, and other victims of Nazi Germany) faced cultural extinction. The "Holocaust" of World War II came to be the model of genocide. We, as the human race, must realize, however, that other genocides have occurred. Genocide against many particular groups is still widely happening today. The discrimination of the Native American population is only one example of this ruthless destruction.
Authors such as the Holocaust expert David Cesarani have argued that the government and policies of the United States of America against certain indigenous peoples in furtherance of Manifest destiny constituted genocide. Cesarani states that "in terms of the sheer numbers killed, the Native American Genocide exceeds that of the Holocaust".
Most? How can one say that is there was never a proper census of aboriginal peoples?
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Most? How can one say that is there was never a proper census of aboriginal peoples?
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American Indians were counted in US censuses from 1790 on.
By the way, Cherokees and other Indians in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) sided with the South in the Civil War.
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Authors such as the Holocaust expert David Cesarani have argued that the government and policies of the United States of America against certain indigenous peoples in furtherance of Manifest destiny constituted genocide. Cesarani states that "in terms of the sheer numbers killed, the Native American Genocide exceeds that of the Holocaust".
I would agree that it was and to look back at that day and age and hold on one hand belief in a fire-breathing god of brimstone and damnation vs. homicidal actions toward people not like yourself, the suicide rate back in the old days must have been off the charts compared to today. Just a couple hundred years ago as well looking back thats only eight generations? We're no genetically different than they were, we aren't significantly genetically different from the people who were burning witches across Europe before that. We're truly an odd breed of monkey.
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By the way, Cherokees and other Indians in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) sided with the South in the Civil War.
That was the law. The fact was that most aboriginals were inaccessible to the census takers. There could not have been an accurate count.
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Most? How can one say that is there was never a proper census of aboriginal peoples?
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American Indians were counted in US censuses from 1790 on.
By the way, Cherokees and other Indians in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) sided with the South in the Civil War.
And your point slavery ended during the civil war any way the south economy was fading away and the norths was booming at the time it was a poltical issue between the north can south plus most cherokee and others indians where on the souths side because it was the yanks that took their land in the first place
Given the transportation and technology circa 1860 how could the census buro know for sure all the aboriginals were counted?
The means for an accurate count did not exist then. Even today, the Census is only an approximation.
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The Southeastern States were largely depopulated of Indians, who were forcibly relocated to what is now Oklahoma. They were forced to leave their homes and farms (which were burned to the ground behind them), but were permitted to bring their slaves.
Confederate agitators were even trying to get Indians in Michigan to side with them.
Given the transportation and technology circa 1860 how could the census buro know for sure all the aboriginals were counted?
The means for an accurate count did not exist then. Even today, the Census is only an approximation.
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Back in those days, the population was a lot smaller, and I think that they did a more thorough job of counting than today. Indians on reservations (and in White areas) would have been counted. Indians still living off the bison on the Great Plains probably would not have been counted.