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What religion/belief are you?
Christian 23%  23%  [ 29 ]
Atheist 33%  33%  [ 42 ]
Jewish 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Muslim 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Agnostic 17%  17%  [ 21 ]
Buddhist 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
Hindu 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Other 20%  20%  [ 26 ]
Total votes : 127

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13 Aug 2011, 9:07 pm

I for instance am an Agnostic Atheist. If you choose other than describe your belief down below. And please enjoy this is just a fun poll please don't fight about your belief with someone as long as it's a healthy argument. No hating!


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13 Aug 2011, 9:13 pm

You should have included "spiritual but not religious". There are more of those type than agnostics.

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I for instance am an Agnostic Atheist.


How does that work out? Isn't it like saying you are a Christian Atheist? It just seems to contradict to me.

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If you choose other than describe your belief down below. And please enjoy this is just a fun poll please don't fight about your belief with someone as long as it's a healthy argument. No hating!


Some people get very heated about religion. Something people are emotionally invested in are bound to get people heated up.



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13 Aug 2011, 9:17 pm

You should also have included "None". Since religion is the political expression of faith, and many people here have neither faith nor religion, then it stands to reason that "None" should have been an option. I had to choose "Other" to participate, when the correct response for me would have been "None".


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13 Aug 2011, 9:18 pm

An agnostic atheist is an agnostic who has more atheist view points about god. Atheists strictly believe god doesn't exist but and agnostic atheist doesn't believe in god but knows he can never prove this nor can anyone disprove this. Look it up on wikipedia you can find it there. Also thank you for the irreligious suggestion. :D


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13 Aug 2011, 9:22 pm

Yeah I'm sorry I didn't add irreligious. :? I should have...


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14 Aug 2011, 3:54 pm

There seems to be a lot of atheists here. I find this interesting since most intelligent people seem to be atheists.... Coincidence? :?:


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14 Aug 2011, 3:56 pm

Atheizzle fo shizzle



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14 Aug 2011, 3:59 pm

techn0teen wrote:
You should have included "spiritual but not religious". There are more of those type than agnostics.

AspergerLiam wrote:
I for instance am an Agnostic Atheist.


How does that work out? Isn't it like saying you are a Christian Atheist? It just seems to contradict to me.


The majority of atheists are agnostic atheists.

(A)gnostic = (no) knowledge as to god's existence (in this instance)
(A)theist = (no) belief in god's existence


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14 Aug 2011, 4:06 pm

I'm a Pagan-Atheist - for clarification;

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Pagan-Atheism - also known as 'Logical Paganism', 'Philosophical Paganism', or seen as a variation of Scientific Pantheism.

Pagan-Atheism is a form of pantheism that encompasses feelings of reverence towards nature, while embracing rationalism. Pagan-Atheists affirm the nonexistence of supernatural beings or forces outside of being that of human creation. The belief held by Pagan-atheists is that their ideas of deity have no objective or empirical existence independent of human language and culture, and that as such deities are real only in the sense of being potent symbols, so with no objective existence outside of religion.

Pagan-Atheism is also closely associated to Sea Of Faith Movement which aims to explore and promote religious faith as a human creation, and sees a need for religion to evolve to suit the needs of it's followers - this is a non-realist philosophy of religion. Pagan-Atheism takes its name from so-called 'Christian-Atheism' a term sometimes used to describe Christian non-realists.


And for further clarification - non-realism


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14 Aug 2011, 4:08 pm

AspergerLiam wrote:
Atheists strictly believe god doesn't exist


You're mistaken, I'm afraid.

Atheists lack a belief in god, (hence "a") in contrast with Theists. Full stop.

Those who have a belief that there is no god are called "strong" atheists.

The former exists within the latter, but not at all vice-versa.

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an agnostic atheist doesn't believe in god

Correct. (See above.)
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but knows he can never prove this nor can anyone disprove this

The word has nothing at all to do with proof-
it refers to truth values being to the individual not knowable or not known,
hence the root of the word, "gnos".
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Look it up on wikipedia you can find it there.



"Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable. Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief. In the popular sense, an agnostic is someone who neither believes nor disbelieves there is a God, whereas an atheist disbelieves there is a God. In the strict sense, however, agnosticism is the view that human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify knowledge whether God exists or does not. Within agnosticism there are agnostic atheists (who do not believe any deity exists, but do not deny it as a possibility) and agnostic theists (who believe a God exists but do not claim to know that)."

Wikipedia- Agnosticism


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14 Aug 2011, 4:16 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
(A)gnostic = (no) knowledge as to god's existence (in this instance)
(A)theist = (no) belief in god's existence


Negative Atheist = no belief in gods existence.
Positive Atheist = deny gods existence.


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14 Aug 2011, 6:39 pm

I am Catholic.


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14 Aug 2011, 7:35 pm

I chose other. I am non religious.
My spiritual standing is Mystic.



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14 Aug 2011, 10:44 pm

@ValentineWiggin

Attempts by people to draw a distinction between strong and weak atheism is only pretty recent. It has been drawn mostly by people who attempting to claim atheism as being the null hypothesis. Traditionally the null hypothesis has been indecision, weak atheism disputes this and I am unsure if atheists are justified in this assertion.


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14 Aug 2011, 11:17 pm

I am pretty much non-religious. I suppose you could say agnostic since I don't know what the origins of the universe or what happens after you die. It's kind of pointless to speculate. I'll live my life as virtuous as I can but if I'm suppose to believe something specific, god would need to beam down from a cloud or something.



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14 Aug 2011, 11:30 pm

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@ValentineWiggin

Attempts by people to draw a distinction between strong and weak atheism is only pretty recent. It has been drawn mostly by people who attempting to claim atheism as being the null hypothesis. Traditionally the null hypothesis has been indecision, weak atheism disputes this and I am unsure if atheists are justified in this assertion.


A lack of belief in god IS the null hypothesis- the label of atheism isn't needed.
I don't know what the question has to do with "indecision",
but disbelief is perfectly-fitting, I think-
atheists, full stop, lacking belief in both god's existence AND non-existence.


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