Hey there Obama fans....

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Hey there Obama fans! How are you making out with all that Hope and Change?

ruveyn

I'm a fan of effective gov't, whoever is in charge, but I'll answer your question anyway:

They're probably making out about as well as you are with your plagiarized cheap shots.

I've seen many Presidents come and go. They've all had their weak points. Very few of them hit the ground running.

Hm, possibly LBJ was one who did hit the ground running, but then he had already been VP and in Congress, and had a natural talent for strong-arming Congress to shove through legislation.

Well, Ford did a pretty good job hitting the ground running, but he inherited a mess on account of he pardoned Nixon for Watergate. I always thought that was the best choice for the country, but boy did he take a lot of s**t for that. And he never got even a full term to prove himself, unfortunately.

Oh yeah, in case you hadn't noticed, our gov't is not a dictatorship. I have yet to see any President who got to do anything he wanted with no opposition.

Have you noticed that Lord Obama has been in perpetual campaign and "town meeting" mode since he was elected. He has yet to manifest any talent in leadership or governance.

What I find amazing is the reluctance of Obama fans to admit, after 3 years, that their Crown Prince is a dud. Contrast Prince Obama with another democrat, Bill Clinton. Clinton actually manifested management and leadership skills. I am no fan of Clinton's ideology, but I readily admit he actually exercised leadership, management and governance. The same could be said of Ronal Regan.

Your man Obama is a dud just like Jimmuh Carter. A lost cause. A walking disaster.

ruveyn

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Thinking 'Great Society' lets just hope that we don't have any more hitting the ground running of that ilk, that was probably one of the most socially destructive legislations ever made.

What we got from LBJ was the continuation of a war that killed the most Americans since WW2.

ruveyn

And then withdrawl under Nixon with no material support for our allies. Seems like everyone who touched it made it worse.

Obama has been more effective legislatively than Clinton's first term. He openly integrated gays into the military, enacted health care, and didn't lose the Senate in the mid-terms (plus killed OBL). All things Clinton could not accomplish. Clinton's first term was marked by internal panic which led to him hiring a right-winger to advise him on surviving politically.

But Obama came in with a much more severe economic crisis and he may not survive it. A hypothetical replacement might not either.

If the U.S could survive the Civil War and Jimmy Carter, it can handle the current problems.

ruveyn

I didnt suggest the Earth or the United States would be destroyed.

It could be a lot worse - we could be living in a world where the president is a bellicose old bastard with psychological issues stemming from his experience as a prisoner of war in asia who's vice president is a twit not qualified to be elected as dog catcher.

The only thing I'm grateful to Mr. Obama for is that Jesse Jackson no longer whines about how the White Man is keeping the Black Man from being elected President.

All he does now is bad-mouth Mr. Obama. I think it's because Mr. Obama never gave any credit to Mr. Jackson for his success ... not that Mr. Jackson ever did anything to earn such credit ...

We would still be better off now. Obama, his buddies and his policies are a train wreck.

The real cure would be the rigorous separation of government and business. At this point we have the opposite. We have Crony Capitalism which is the worst combination of all.

ruveyn

As if crony capitalism was something new. Every state and federal level politician in the United States practices it, because they must--and you will have the Supreme Court to thank for it on an ongoing basis, because they have served to a blood-brain barrier (sorry, money-policy making barrier) forever out of reach.

Do not blame Obama for being what he is--because no other could possibly succeed in your system. Party and ideology is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is fundraising and network building.

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How about if all of the current elected officials were rounded up and replaced with newly-elected individuals, and the two groups were not allowed to communicate with each other in any way, shape, or form?

Would the new people (selected at random) do any better or worse than the old group?

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I would rephrase...

Obama fans, how is all that typical Chicago style politics working out for you?

It ain't so god. y'know? Da Bearsss still ain't got a shot at da championship.