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13 Oct 2011, 10:32 am

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/ ... r-pan-men/

Can't... stand ...stupid levels.


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13 Oct 2011, 10:37 am

Don't let it get to you. It's just one woman expressing frustration over her own unfulfilled love life, and using it as a reason to promote a book that furthers what appears to be her primary interest - man-bashing.



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13 Oct 2011, 11:24 am

Fnord wrote:
Don't let it get to you. It's just one woman expressing frustration over her own unfulfilled love life, and using it as a reason to promote a book that furthers what appears to be her primary interest - man-bashing.


Heh. Agreed. :)



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13 Oct 2011, 11:46 am

I think that article hits the nail square on the head. That's obviously happening in our society.



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13 Oct 2011, 11:54 am

Real fans can sign up for the wench's e-mail alerts.

http://www.cwfa.org/main.asp



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13 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm

That article made me punch a baby.


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13 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm

Men still make more, overall. Penelope Trunk even reccomends women spend less time trying for a perfect education and more time doing manly things... like playing videogames. Because it teaches better practical job skills than traditional education alone (teamwork, problem solving, etc).

Most people don't have the experience and education for entry level jobs anymore until they are 30. Most demand a college degree and at least five years of experience for the same entry level jobs people picked up in their early 20s before. These the same jobs that pay enough to do the traditional things like buying a house or supporting children.

So women who expect men to jump out of high school and be their fantacy white stallion are the ones who, in fact, need to grow up and learn to deal with the real world. Men may mature later, but this article proves that many women do too, being to immature and deluted to move past their childhood dollhouses and get to know men as they actually are.[url=blog.penelopetrunk.com/2011/06/28/keys-to-getting-unlost]here[/url]



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13 Oct 2011, 1:05 pm

Hissssss! Evil! Sexist! Biggot!

How dare she tell us that there's such a thing as a role that men need to fill - vile oppresor!

And these chauvanistic women she works with..... :eew:

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Any possibility that she might be right?


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Most people don't have the experience and education for entry level jobs anymore until they are 30. Most demand a college degree and at least five years of experience for the same entry level jobs people picked up in their early 20s before. These the same jobs that pay enough to do the traditional things like buying a house or supporting children.

So women who expect men to jump out of high school and be their fantacy white stallion are the ones who, in fact, need to grow up and learn to deal with the real world. Men may mature later, but this article proves that many women do too, being to immature and deluted to move past their childhood dollhouses and get to know men as they actually are.


I think the education system is laying an egg and I'd agree, people are coming out completely unqualified. What might be a possibility in terms of the gender ratio in employment is that women seem to generally have a better nack for weaving order out of chaos, guys tend to be more "give me A, give me B, give me C", and companies these days do not want to train - they'd rather talk a big one, not train, and fire people who don't just 'get it'. Obviously that's a horrible thing to happen to any guy or girl (which giving a few generalities doesn't mean that it doesn't happen to both often).


On the gender role issue though - I think the op's quoted article does point out a LOT of cognitive dissonance. That and, if guys feel utterly inferior in that they can't compete, don't have the genetic intelligence or ability to, and there's no blue collar job for them... why would they date? I don't think these women asking "Where have all the real men gone?" are really missing much from the guys staying at home - the later are just trying to find ways to get through the week without slitting their own wrists often enough.


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13 Oct 2011, 1:17 pm

I was expecting Inuyasha to bite and complain. I am slightly disappointed.



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13 Oct 2011, 1:40 pm

I've been seeing a lot of these "where have all the good men gone?" stuff recently not just on FOX, maybe it's all from the same person I dunno. This is more of a symptom of the economic downturn than changing gender roles, feminism, or whatever else. The hikikomori of Japan were a result their Lost Decade, our American manchilds will be the result of ours.



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13 Oct 2011, 2:02 pm

In my opinon a lot of news stations in America say stupid things but this is to much :lol:



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13 Oct 2011, 8:43 pm

Uuhhh, she has a really good point. Younger men aren't doing as much to be productive at work or raising a family as they used to and society is not better off for it.


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13 Oct 2011, 9:04 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Uuhhh, she has a really good point. Younger men aren't doing as much to be productive at work or raising a family as they used to and society is not better off for it.

Don't worry, women will pick up the slack.


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14 Oct 2011, 12:13 am

Lecks wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Uuhhh, she has a really good point. Younger men aren't doing as much to be productive at work or raising a family as they used to and society is not better off for it.

Don't worry, women will pick up the slack.


No, women are being just as immature oftentimes.



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14 Oct 2011, 5:25 am

Yes, men should man up, take on the responsibilities of an adult, get a job, have a family and be a contributing member to society. The benefits to being a married man are huge. According to Men’s Health magazine, married men make more money, have more sex, get promoted faster, and are generally healthier than unmarried men.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/ ... z1akZvfLkZ


Actually I quite like this article. I don't know if it's true, but it is true that men shouldn't be harangued for something so simple. At the same time men should learn how to be proper grown-ups.

I can find thousands of worse articles on Fox News

Screw anti-feminism though.

At the same time bugger androphobes.



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14 Oct 2011, 5:00 pm

Henry Makow looks at things from the other side of the coin: that women and feminists are the cause of all of the Western world's ills.

http://www.henrymakow.com/

His book, A Long Way to Go for a Date, wherein he relates his experiences in going to the Philippines to marry a teenager 30 years his junior, includes quite a lot of Western-female bashing, for those who take interest in this sort of thing.