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05 Nov 2011, 6:20 am

...Just an aspie like one of us? He was the original/ultimate "loner".
Autism evolution is coming.



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05 Nov 2011, 7:03 am

Krychek wrote:
...Just an aspie like one of us? He was the original/ultimate "loner".
Autism evolution is coming.


Evolution is driven by reproductive success. Those who reproduce pass whatever characteristics they have to the next generation. Those who do not reproduce do not pass on their characteristics.

Does Autism promote reproductive success? Auties form a very small proportion of the population. NTs are in the vast majority.

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05 Nov 2011, 12:33 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPDaz6uO9Ps[/youtube]


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05 Nov 2011, 7:02 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Krychek wrote:
...Just an aspie like one of us? He was the original/ultimate "loner".
Autism evolution is coming.


Evolution is driven by reproductive success. Those who reproduce pass whatever characteristics they have to the next generation. Those who do not reproduce do not pass on their characteristics.

Does Autism promote reproductive success? Auties form a very small proportion of the population. NTs are in the vast majority.

ruveyn


You seem to have jumped schools of thought again. You were going with "survival of the fittest", and here you are in "survival by reproductive success".

The match with the environment is very important, as, soon as the industrial revolution sputters to a complete halt, what was much of a genetic benefit, is going to become a drawback. Also, much of what is a genetic drawback under industrialism, is likely to return to being a benefit sans industrialism. Malaria versus sickle cell anemia "is" one of the best known examples, and diabetes is a lesser known example of the inverse.

The notion of the "individual" has also been confounded with the "group" (maybe all the way to the "species"), with the un-reproducing members of the extended family benefiting the reproducing members, which benefits the "whole". "Menopause" has been noted for evolutionary survival value under such considerations too: http://esciencenews.com/articles/2010/0 ... .menopause

With frequently fatal diseases being more opportunistic with social interactions, any inherent minimizing of needless social interaction may very well gain a tremendous survival value of "less than gregarious" groups of reproductive members. The collapse of industrialism making lone hunting for food and sparse gathering of plants more valuable for survival, will shift the benefit to the small proportion the most suited for such also.

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05 Nov 2011, 7:15 pm

Only gentiles call him God I call him Yahweh not dissing just saying :lol:


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05 Nov 2011, 7:46 pm

Tadzio wrote:

You seem to have jumped schools of thought again. You were going with "survival of the fittest", and here you are in "survival by reproductive success".


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Reproductive success is the only fitness "recognized" by nature. Of course one must survive long enough to swim upstream to spawn (so to speak). Bottom line: reproductive success. That is how one's genetic characteristics are transmitted to the next generation. Any thing about an organism that promotes reproductive success is likely to be transmitted to the next generation.

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08 Nov 2011, 10:49 am

You fail to realize god is already one of us. Really he is all of us, each taking form to suck out loyalty from our brains, causing genocide, massacre, and calling us superior to other races, all in the name of god. We do these things in the name of god because we feel like it, and thus god feels like it, for we are godly creatures. This is the bad part of religion. We pick at what we want and leave the rest to rot, quoting what supports our ideas, while dismissing the rest as heresy, even if it is in the book you believe in. God is all and each of us. We kill because we like it, and pick at things to justify god to like it. We are god. And there is none else.


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10 Nov 2011, 3:34 pm

God has autism? Or asperger's?



We know of some aspects of his personality.
He used to have anger management issues in the days of the Old Testament, but then he mellowed out after his son was born, but then he backslid during the Book of Revelations.
But that has nothing to do with being on the spectrum.



He is aspie-like in having a number of obsessive interests such as in creating beetles- millions of kinds of beetles.

Also he isnt very out going. He speaks to very few people.

But that could be more out of executive snobbery than from being socially withdrawn.

Its hard to say.



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10 Nov 2011, 3:38 pm

femme wrote:
Only gentiles call him God I call him Yahweh not dissing just saying :lol:

Yes, the mere word "God" is not anybody's name ...

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Who has gone up to the heavens and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name, And what is His Son’s Name, If you know it?
(Proverbs 30:4)


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10 Nov 2011, 5:44 pm

femme wrote:
Only gentiles call him God I call him Yahweh not dissing just saying :lol:


There is only one God, so referring to YHWH as God is not in anyway meant disrespectfully.



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10 Nov 2011, 5:53 pm

What if Chewbacca was one of us?

Krychek wrote:
Autism evolution is coming.

If you're considering that as us evolving into NT's. Nanotech medicine and cures for autism are what's most likely coming, in our lifetimes most likely.


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11 Nov 2011, 10:56 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
... referring to YHWH as God is not in anyway meant disrespectfully.

True enough, but then many people do not know who is actually being mentioned.


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11 Nov 2011, 11:08 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
femme wrote:
Only gentiles call him God I call him Yahweh not dissing just saying :lol:


There is only one God, so referring to YHWH as God is not in anyway meant disrespectfully.


God is a rank. YHWH is more like a proper name. If I refer to the head of the army as General I am not calling him/her by his/her name.

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11 Nov 2011, 7:10 pm

Krychek wrote:
...Just an aspie like one of us? He was the original/ultimate "loner".
Autism evolution is coming.


I don't want NT kids.