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27 Dec 2011, 11:51 pm
Burzum wrote:
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When Ron Paul wants people to cry, he tells people their friends deserve to die of breast cancer because they cannot afford health insurance.
No, he would donate to the cause. You know, voluntarily help others without being told to, because that's what moral people do?
Where do you get off on claiming that Ron Paul doesn't care about the poor? I guarantee he's done more for the poor than you ever will.
You Paul guys are too easy...
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At a campaign stop in this small city of about 7,000, Paul told breast cancer survivor Danielle Lin that insurance companies should not be required to offer coverage to people who are already sick.
"It's sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane," said Paul, whose Galveston-based district was devastated by a hurricane in 2008. "Insurance is supposed to measure risk."
The response left Lin in tears. While her insurance covered her treatment, she said, several of her friends were not so fortunate.
"I watched three friends die because they didn't have insurance," said Lin, a registered Democrat who is looking for a Republican candidate to support this time.
"Nobody can afford private insurance, nobody can. And they're dead."
"It's sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane," said Paul, whose Galveston-based district was devastated by a hurricane in 2008. "Insurance is supposed to measure risk."
The response left Lin in tears. While her insurance covered her treatment, she said, several of her friends were not so fortunate.
"I watched three friends die because they didn't have insurance," said Lin, a registered Democrat who is looking for a Republican candidate to support this time.
"Nobody can afford private insurance, nobody can. And they're dead."
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28 Dec 2011, 12:06 am
GoonSquad wrote:
Burzum wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
When Ron Paul wants people to cry, he tells people their friends deserve to die of breast cancer because they cannot afford health insurance.
No, he would donate to the cause. You know, voluntarily help others without being told to, because that's what moral people do?
Where do you get off on claiming that Ron Paul doesn't care about the poor? I guarantee he's done more for the poor than you ever will.
You Paul guys are too easy...
m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/paul-builds-campaign-doomsday-scenarios-161301486.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us
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At a campaign stop in this small city of about 7,000, Paul told breast cancer survivor Danielle Lin that insurance companies should not be required to offer coverage to people who are already sick.
"It's sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane," said Paul, whose Galveston-based district was devastated by a hurricane in 2008. "Insurance is supposed to measure risk."
The response left Lin in tears. While her insurance covered her treatment, she said, several of her friends were not so fortunate.
"I watched three friends die because they didn't have insurance," said Lin, a registered Democrat who is looking for a Republican candidate to support this time.
"Nobody can afford private insurance, nobody can. And they're dead."
"It's sort of like me living on the Gulf Coast, not buying insurance until I see the hurricane," said Paul, whose Galveston-based district was devastated by a hurricane in 2008. "Insurance is supposed to measure risk."
The response left Lin in tears. While her insurance covered her treatment, she said, several of her friends were not so fortunate.
"I watched three friends die because they didn't have insurance," said Lin, a registered Democrat who is looking for a Republican candidate to support this time.
"Nobody can afford private insurance, nobody can. And they're dead."
People with preexisting conditions shouldn't be thrown out in the cold but private insurance shouldn't be mandated to cover them either. I'm talking real ones, not BS ones insurance companies think up after the fact. You can't get be in a car crash and demand private insurance cover your costs if you never paid into it, It simply doesn't make logical sense for them to do so. The only reason the private insurance companies allowed for that to be included in the Obamacare bill was because coverage is mandated on everyone.
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28 Dec 2011, 12:42 am
Burzum wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
You Paul guys are too easy...
Your quote did nothing to refute my claim. It wasn't an example of Paul dismissing someone who could not afford health insurance, it was an example of Paul dismissing someone who did not have health insurance after they got sick (whether they were too poor to afford it in the first place is a different matter, as I will address below). His argument is logically sound, I should not be able to buy car insurance after I crash my car otherwise it defeats the risk versus reward element that makes insurance work in the first place! If I get insurance after the event that would make me eligible for claims on that insurance occurs, then the risk for me is zero and the reward is 100%, and if insurance companies allowed this they would quite literally go bankrupt. This is simple economics, whether you "feel" that it should not be this way does not enter into it.
As for the cost of healthcare - In America healthcare costs so much because bureaucrats pick winners through regulatory barriers to entry and subsidize the industry. It is not even close to being "free market". If it were free market, medical services would be much more available to the poor.
Now enough about his policies, your comment made the claim that he doesn't care about the poor. So if you care about the poor so much, do you donate to charity so that people that cannot afford health insurance can get treatment? Do you volunteer your time to charity work?
Not that I need to justify anything to you, but if you search my posts you will see that I give money to the Salvation Army on a monthly basis, I volunteer at my local homeless shelter, and I teach people to read.
On a side note, most my fellow volunteers are not republicans or Paul supporters.
In sum, I work full time, take a 3/4 load at university and volunteer about 8 hours a week.
Your arguments about healthcosts being driven up by government regulation are pure BS.
Healthcare does not operate under normal market forces. People are not looking for value when ill or dieing they are looking for competency... greedy scumbags depend on that.
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