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22 Sep 2006, 2:06 pm

What is more important for you: your life or your happiness?



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22 Sep 2006, 2:15 pm

life is not really worth living if your unhappy all the time.... Though some of us don't really have much option to be happy. Heh, I guess that's why we're here because society throws a label on your head and the human race disowns you because theyr racist f**kers.
Oddly, they expect people to live no matter what... Some things are worse than death.



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22 Sep 2006, 6:56 pm

Hard for me to tell. Happiness can be regained. Life cannot. One state, when lost, can be emphemeral. The other, when lost, is eternal.


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22 Sep 2006, 9:04 pm

i'd have to say neither life nor happyness matters to me, all that much.



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23 Sep 2006, 3:12 am

Why the heck do we have to choose? Both can peacefully coexist. They have for me for the past 280 months, give or take a few days.



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23 Sep 2006, 12:10 pm

Happiness, of course. If my life isn't going to be at least tolerable, I don't want it. Life without happiness is torture. My religion doesn't have a strict definition of the afterlife, so I have no idea what's waiting for me there. It could be nice, but I have no way of knowing for sure. So I want to enjoy this life as much as I possibly can, or not have it at all.



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24 Sep 2006, 7:18 am

This is a bit silly. If you don't have life, then you've got nothing. I'd rather be unhappy and alive than nothing.



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24 Sep 2006, 2:33 pm

I'd pick life. Happiness isn't the sole virtue in a life but rather a good thing. I can live a miserable life and yet still have decent accomplishments and be able to bear my misery with pride.



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04 Oct 2006, 10:12 pm

alive? pride? whats all that gonna do for you? hwo does being proud make life worth it for ye unless it makes you happy? (which would be regarded ectremely silly to me)

not being happy would allready make it not worth the effort. but unhappyness would make it a better not.
what good is life if your unhappy? you will die eventually, whats a few years gonna do if your unhappy in those years? whats quantity without quality
everyone knows quality is much more importend then quantity. im not going to eat loads of food tastes disgusting if i can have a decend proportion of the really good stuff. i prefere really good sex once in a while to having sex against my will everyday.

obviously i would do with a few happy years and die, rather then a many years of misery, and then die. how is that even a question.
the little thing is though, iv never in my life been happy, not that can remember. theres not much happyness to loose. not much life either though. but i just wanna linger around to be able to experiance happyness, just to know what its like. my life cant be worse then it were, so i choose to stay alive in hope of happyness. but if there were no hope id have no doubt to choose to klll myself



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04 Oct 2006, 11:00 pm

Well, it is quite simple, I have had a few times I have been unhappy and am probably not generally a happy person so I have had to find other reasons to live, as I am not going to cling to a hope that things will necessarily get better but rather must make my destiny. There are many people who have lived with pain but still gone forward, I don't think I can turn down life simply because it is a struggle when I think I can still do something no matter how much I would be unhappy. When it comes down to it, I would rather live and struggle even on horrible terms than to give in because I am afraid of pain and suffering when I can do more and be more. That is a personal preference though and a reaction to the world, as can be seen.

Quality is not necessarily better than quantity, nor does happiness mean a life that is bad or good. When one looks at the past there are many lives marred by horrible things, and yet they have still done great things. This cannot be distilled into an analogy of bad food or unwanted sex, this is life and it isn't just a matter of disgusting food to be consumed, it is a massive part of reality. To live means that you affect your world in some form or fashion and that you can create change, I will not give up that strength just to have temporary happiness, and that is a personal assessment of what I think my life is worth even without happiness.



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05 Oct 2006, 12:24 am

so, if you contribute to the world, then your life has been good?
this really sounds like this makes you happy or contend. or your something of a utilitarian pragmatist or something.
yeah or just an altruist.



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05 Oct 2006, 12:29 am

hypermind wrote:
so, if you contribute to the world, then your life has been good?
this really sounds like this makes you happy or contend. or your something of a utilitarian pragmatist or something.
yeah or just an altruist.


What's wrong with being altruistic?


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05 Oct 2006, 7:31 am

nothing ofcourse. its just rare.



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06 Oct 2006, 2:40 pm

hypermind wrote:
so, if you contribute to the world, then your life has been good?
this really sounds like this makes you happy or contend. or your something of a utilitarian pragmatist or something.
yeah or just an altruist.

I am more of a utilitarian pragmatist type of person. Happiness is one of many goals, other goals involve affecting other people in ways that one considers beneficial and even as a miserable person I can still have attempt to achieve other goals in life.



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13 Oct 2006, 5:33 am

It may sound strange, but when I'm alone I dont even think about happyness, I'm simply... existing, doing what I do, and if I didn't enjoy it, I wouldnt be doing it..

I guess though I feel empty inside unless I'm pursuing a goal that touches people somehow... So yes, I guess that is the pursuit of happyness.

Happyness or life...

What about... dieing for what makes you, or those you feel, happy?

Therefore living isn't about achieving happiness, simply existing..

hmmn


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14 Oct 2006, 12:33 am

Suppose if you die, you cease to feel. Then, if you die, you can't feel happiness. So choose life and you at least choose to have the potential to feel happiness.