Was George Soros a Nazi Collaborator?

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21 Jun 2011, 3:21 pm

Among the many sins of which George Soros has been accused, the one transgression which many people regard as having been among the most evil was that of having been a "Nazi Collaborator."

One issue at stake here is whether Glenn Beck will invite George Soros to his upcoming shindig in Jerusalem. According to Inuyasha, esq.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf165407-0-15.html

Inuyasha, esq. wrote:

He's not going to ask a Nazi Collaborator to join his rally.

If Mr. Soros is formally acquitted of the charge of having been a "Nazi Collaborator", then it is possible that Mr. Beck will invite Mr. Soros to his rally. If we convict Mr. Soros, then we would anticipate Mr. Soros to stay away from Jerusalem.

From George Soros' Wikipedia entry:

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Soros was thirteen years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.[19] Soros took a job with the Jewish Council, which had been established during the Nazi occupation of Hungary to carry out Nazi and Hungarian government anti-Jewish measures. Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis:

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The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper...It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 am...And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported."

Later that year, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. On one occasion, the official was ordered to inventory the remaining contents of the estate of a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country. Rather than leave the young Soros alone in the city, the official brought him along. The following year, Soros survived the Battle of Budapest, in which Soviet and German forces fought house-to-house through the city.

Inuyasha, esq. also introduced as evidence the following video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2U6Rl98PM[/youtube]

And, from a right-wing internet source

http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/01/28/ ... -property/

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Billionaire left-wing extremist George Soros betrayed the Jews, worked with the Nazis… has no regrets

George Soros is very, very rich, and he’s also a soulless sociopath, an inhumane left-wing extremist who collaborated with the Nazis in his youth.

But that’s just my take on the man. Based exclusively on his own words.

Be prepared to be hit with revulsion. Soros betrayed other Jews and helped steal their property and send them to their tragic deaths to spare himself.

And he doesn’t feel any guilt about it. None.

This is the face of pure evil… and with whom the Democrat party has aligned itself.

H/t to reader Larry, via Weasel Zippers, George Soros Says He Feels No Remorse For Collaborating With Nazis During WWII to Send His Fellow Jews to the Death Camps, Steal Their Property…: — viaOttawa Sun, Billionaire George Soros has made a living wrecking the lives of others. Now he wants to mess with Canadians:

(Ezra Levant)- George Schwartz was born in Hungary in 1930 — not the luckiest time and place to be born a Jew.

George’s father Theodore tried to change the family’s fortunes by changing their name to something less Jewish-sounding. It didn’t help. And soon war came.

When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

So, how do you find the defendant?

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21 Jun 2011, 5:22 pm

There is no information here. What did Mr. Soros allegedly do?

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21 Jun 2011, 5:28 pm

Well this certainly doesn't meet the standard for proof of anything.

Did Soros work for the Judenrat--that might well be an open question, still. Soros' claims that his father instructed him to tell the people to whom he delivered the notices that if they obeyed them, they would be deported, and that he did as his father instructed him. This appears less a matter of collaboration than it appears to be an act of subversion.

Even if Soros did work for the Judenrat, there is the question of the culpability that attaches to it. Here is a boy of 14, who is called upon by others in his community to perform tasks which are imposed by an occupying force. This is not a case of a man pushing fellow Jews into railcars, but a teenager delivering notices. Not every act in obedience to an occupying force constitutes collaboration.

This all seems to me highly uncritical.

But what truly disgusts me is that it is not motivated through any intention to do justice, or remediate offenses committed in the past, but rather it is motivated through the most partisan and shallow of political intents.

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21 Jun 2011, 5:47 pm

dionysian wrote:

There is no information here. What did Mr. Soros allegedly do?

I don't know yet. Please help with the research.

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21 Jun 2011, 5:59 pm

Why would someone who was Jewish collaborate with the people who were trying to kill his fellow brothers and sisters?

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21 Jun 2011, 6:03 pm

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Why would someone who was Jewish collaborate with the people who were trying to kill his fellow brothers and sisters?

Very good question.

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21 Jun 2011, 6:47 pm

Well, here is one example of a specific instance that might be regarded as "collaboration"

http://www.ralphmag.org/AW/soros.html

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The Russians are fighting through Budapest, street by street, and a soldier comes in through the Soros apartment window:

There stood a fair-haired, blue-eyed German boy in full military equipment, his chin as smooth as a baby's....Chance had so arranged things that this solitary German soldier, representative of the power and might of Germany, now stood before four Jews, who had the opportunity to treat him with the same senseless barbarity and malice that the Germans had used on millions of Jews. With his blue eyes and blond hair he seemed the very embodiment of that Aryan-ness whose fanatical adherents had sought to enslave people and exterminate races. Should the lex talionis, the principle of compensation, of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, apply? Was he himself guilty? Was it right to punish him for something he had perhaps not done himself, not even approved of? And did the "Aryans" weight such matters with similar exactitude?

We did the boy no harm.

"Wie alt sind Sie? [How old are you]" This was my first question.

"I'm seventeen," he declared, eager to please.

"Do you smoke?"

"Yes."

He took my offered cigarette, lit it, and inhaled eagerly. He explained that there was a Russian tank in front of our building. This was evidently the source of the machine-gun fire we had been hearing. He had run from the Russians into the basement of our building, and, looking for a way out, had gone from there to the air shaft. Our bathroom window looked out on this air shaft, so he had broken the glass of the outer window and pushed at the inner one. When it gave way he tumbled into the room.

We talked for perhaps a quarter of an hour. The question then was what to do with him.

The eyes of fourteen-year-old George seemed filled with tears. I put a handful of cigarettes into the Aryan soldier's fist and gave him his orders: "You're to go out the same way you came in."

The boys helped him to climb on to the window-sill, and the armed representative of the German Reich exited Jewish-occupied territory.

They gave a Nazi soldier a cigarette, and permitted him to escape.

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21 Jun 2011, 7:14 pm

pandabear wrote:

They gave a Nazi soldier a cigarette, and permitted him to escape.

How is trying to kill a Nazi soldier now considered collaborating with Nazis?

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21 Jun 2011, 7:16 pm

Well, okay. Civilians aren't necessarily supposed to participate in killing soldiers. Especially at the age of 14. So, we can let George off the hook for this one.

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21 Jun 2011, 7:39 pm

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Well, okay. Civilians aren't necessarily supposed to participate in killing soldiers. Especially at the age of 14. So, we can let George off the hook for this one.

But they gave him cigarettes, which is probably as close as they could come. He should get some points in his favor.

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21 Jun 2011, 9:41 pm

Good point. If the soldier somehow survived the war, then he will eventually have died from a smoking-related illness. So, the defense wins this point.

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21 Jun 2011, 9:56 pm

My problem is he doesn't feel any guilt decades later. I can excuse what he did as a boy, I can't excuse the fact he doesn't have any feelings of remorse about it as a man.

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21 Jun 2011, 9:58 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

My problem is he doesn't feel any guilt decades later. I can excuse what he did as a boy, I can't excuse the fact he doesn't have any feelings of remorse about it as a man.

Finally, we have somebody that can enlighten us on the actual facts of this matter. Please tell us what he actually did, Inuyasha. pandabear can't even articulate a single action that Soros did.

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21 Jun 2011, 11:15 pm

dionysian wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

My problem is he doesn't feel any guilt decades later. I can excuse what he did as a boy, I can't excuse the fact he doesn't have any feelings of remorse about it as a man.

Finally, we have somebody that can enlighten us on the actual facts of this matter. Please tell us what he actually did, Inuyasha. pandabear can't even articulate a single action that Soros did.

Specifically he was identifying the property of Jewish people for the Nazis to confiscate, he may have also helped round up other Jewish individuals to be shipped to concentration camps. While one can argue he was a kid thrust into a situation where he was scared and protecting his family, that said the fact he doesn't feel any remorse over the fact is very disturbing.

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21 Jun 2011, 11:33 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

dionysian wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

My problem is he doesn't feel any guilt decades later. I can excuse what he did as a boy, I can't excuse the fact he doesn't have any feelings of remorse about it as a man.

Finally, we have somebody that can enlighten us on the actual facts of this matter. Please tell us what he actually did, Inuyasha. pandabear can't even articulate a single action that Soros did.

Can you link us, so that we can salivate over the gory details?

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21 Jun 2011, 11:40 pm

dionysian wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

dionysian wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

My problem is he doesn't feel any guilt decades later. I can excuse what he did as a boy, I can't excuse the fact he doesn't have any feelings of remorse about it as a man.

Finally, we have somebody that can enlighten us on the actual facts of this matter. Please tell us what he actually did, Inuyasha. pandabear can't even articulate a single action that Soros did.

Can you link us, so that we can salivate over the gory details?

You are seriously warped, I'm basically going off the man's own admission, I don't get my kicks reading over gory details.

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