Is believing in magic terrible?

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I am not a very religious person, and I only accept things that have adamant, holdable, touchable facts behind it.

BUT!

for some odd reason, i believe that music, crystals, and natural hold a form of magical energy that can heal people, or harm people. i am not talking glowing lights, and fireballs, but a more subtle form of magic very similar to that of the placebo effect.

But I don't believe this based on facts, I believe it based entirely on feelings. And have since I was very little. As if I was born with the inital belief that magic was true. (another reason I call myself a Keplian).

Is this... bad? Or is it normal for a aspie to have awkward beliefs? and even if it is normal, is it a bad normal?

Music for one DOES have quite an effect on people. It stimulates your brain in various ways, so that belief is actually true, to an extent. As for crystals, they are indeed fascinating... they could hold some sort of power. Who knows?

No. I know 'Magical thinking' is considered a sign of a mental disorder, but I don't see why one's magical thinking should matter to anyone. I don't believe in anything, by the way, but I find all sorts of different concepts fun to indulge in; Apart from organised religion, I was a taoist when I was about 14, and was 'spiritual' between the years 2005-2006/7.

the placebo effect happens because you think it happens so something akin to that can come because you think it will happen,

doesnt mean its magic though.

sry,
double post.

Last edited by Oodain on 16 Jan 2012, 3:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I've read that schizoids tend to engage in magical thinking. Kids seems to do this as well, but what I'd like to know is whether they can distinguish "magically thinking" from reality. I think they can. At least most people that have been clinically diagnosed with some disorder. If they can, then why is it considered a hallmark of a schizoid? Seems like it's just them entertaining themselves.

I know for a fact that I did some things for kicks, AND got hospitalized. If I didn't try to subvert by being 'crazy', I wouldn't have been so amused by it. I'm not arguing about the existence of disorders, and it's possible all of my diagnoses are correct, but I still think psychotherapy could have been used with me, as I was very open minded and accepting. I can't see the point in hospitals sedating psychotic patients 100% of the time.

I am definitely NOT schizophrenic, and I would say my belief is similar to the beliefs of those who believe in miracles, or past lives, or the effects of Healers in native American culture.

I don't understand why people would say that it is symptom to a mental disorder...

I don't think they don't exist, I think they are over diagnosed. I haven't seen the stats in awhile, but I remember seeing 1-3% of people could be considering having a schizoid disorder.

It depends on your point of view. If you care what God's has to say, and want to know his viewpoint on magic in order to please him, then you'll heed the bible's council (which is his word). God's view on magic is crystal clear.

I saw a psychiatrist on TV once, and he started giving an explanation about schizophrenics with 'People who are into spirituality'. Like I said, I don't mind. *shrugs*

Not terrible ... just not reasonable. Aspies and Enties alike believe in magic, psychics, ghosts, and supernatural sky-faeries. Mere belief proves nothing, and the fact that millions of people share the same belief does not make that belief valid.

Otherwise, there is no valid empirical evidence to support any claim for the existence of magic, psychics, ghosts, and supernatural sky-faeries.

For the same reason that some of us claim that religion is a mental disorder. I, on the other hand, consider it to be merely a vice. Like any vice, it is harmless, potentially even useful and beneficial, if it is exercised with a sense of moderation and discipline.

What I find outrageous is that there are some religious people out there who readily ridicule those who believe in tarot cards and crystal power, and I think, "those who live in glass houses..."

If it really reassures you to have a few magic crystals hanging here and there or to keep some good classical music playing or to try some transcendental meditation once in a while, I don't think most people would think you were weird. Most of the crystals are actually kind of pretty, and the music is nice.

How can something that doesn't exist have a view on ANYTHING?

You answered your own question.

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The Abrahamaic God is a wielder of "white" magic, no?

Off topic (sort of), but do you agree with the religious people who consider the Harry Potter series to be occultist propaganda/evil? Just curious, I know that a lot of SE American Baptists seem to have a problem with it, but I honestly have no idea what the general position of JWs is. Thanks!