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10 Jan 2012, 4:39 am

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20

What does it mean to call good "evil" and evil "good"? I consider the meaning plainly obvious and there are numerous examples that I could draw upon even in the posts of other members here, but let's see here what shall be said from pandabear and the like in focusing on the last third of the verse to the ignoring of the rest and then performing rhetorical hoops of sophistry to say that there's nothing wrong with anything they personally approve of.



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10 Jan 2012, 4:54 am

:o

What if you call a snickers a milkyway with peanuts? Or substitute plain yogurt in a recipe and call it mayonnaise?

.....Or.... *gasp* .....use cottage cheese in lasagna and tell everyone it's ricotta?


AM I GOING TO HELL? 8O












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10 Jan 2012, 4:58 am

GoonSquad wrote:
:o

What if you call a snickers a milkyway with peanuts? Or substitute plain yogurt in a recipe and call it mayonnaise?

.....Or.... *gasp* .....use cottage cheese in lasagna and tell everyone it's ricotta?


AM I GOING TO HELL? 8O












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YES :twisted:

Seriously though, such as you've brought up is morally neutral. Some ingredient substitutions might lead to nasty food, but such is not morally relevant (well, unless such is done with the intention of getting on people's nerves in order to pursue vengeance or something like that, but the food itself isn't what's wrong even then but only the motivation then if it were to intentionally harm another or whatever of that sort. "You rolled your eyes at me, so now eat horse manure!".)



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10 Jan 2012, 5:05 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20


Sounds like organised religion in a nutshell.



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10 Jan 2012, 5:08 am

Asp-Z wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20


Sounds like organised religion in a nutshell.


Given a great many of the churches I've seen, I think that I may have to agree with you. Most are quite reflective of Isaiah 5:20.



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10 Jan 2012, 8:22 am

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, while not perfect, is, on balance, a good piece of legislation. The Republican Candidates are all going to go to Hell for portraying it as completely evil.



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10 Jan 2012, 8:22 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20

What does it mean to call good "evil" and evil "good"? I consider the meaning plainly obvious and there are numerous examples that I could draw upon even in the posts of other members here, but let's see here what shall be said from pandabear and the like in focusing on the last third of the verse to the ignoring of the rest and then performing rhetorical hoops of sophistry to say that there's nothing wrong with anything they personally approve of.


I think it means thinking Jesus is on the side of the folks in power.
I think it means valuing the philosophy of atlas shrugged more than the beatitudes.
I think it means calling wars righteous and protesters traitors.
I think it means thinking God gave the rich more because they deserve it.
I think it means thinking that hating the poor and the stranger is Gods will.
I think it is accusing others of sophistry when yours is as plan as day.

-But you know it is your religion not mine so ravage and distort it all you want.


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10 Jan 2012, 8:40 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20

What does it mean to call good "evil" and evil "good"? I consider the meaning plainly obvious and there are numerous examples that I could draw upon even in the posts of other members here, but let's see here what shall be said from pandabear and the like in focusing on the last third of the verse to the ignoring of the rest and then performing rhetorical hoops of sophistry to say that there's nothing wrong with anything they personally approve of.


Sorry, I missed that we were supposed to focus on the last third of the verse. The topic title must have thrown me off.

I like to eat unsweetened baking chocolate, my favourite being

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I will break up a square, and eat it together with unsalted nuts (cashews, pecans, walnuts, macadamias), some small raisins, and I find it delicious. Others probably think that it is too bitter for them.

When I make my cocoa in the morning, I use

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in some heated milk, with a little cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice. I do not sweeten it. I love it, but others would find it too bitter.

I also like very bitter beers, but I've sworn off of beer, because of what it does to my belly.

Anyway, I do prefer bitter things while others prefer eating sweets. And, I feel no woe, and no remorse.



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10 Jan 2012, 8:45 am

pandabear wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20

What does it mean to call good "evil" and evil "good"? I consider the meaning plainly obvious and there are numerous examples that I could draw upon even in the posts of other members here, but let's see here what shall be said from pandabear and the like in focusing on the last third of the verse to the ignoring of the rest and then performing rhetorical hoops of sophistry to say that there's nothing wrong with anything they personally approve of.


Sorry, I missed that we were supposed to focus on the last third of the verse. The topic title must have thrown me off.

I like to eat unsweetened baking chocolate, my favourite being

Image

I will break up a square, and eat it together with unsalted nuts (cashews, pecans, walnuts, macadamias), some small raisins, and I find it delicious. Others probably think that it is too bitter for them.

When I make my cocoa in the morning, I use

Image

in some heated milk, with a little cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice. I do not sweeten it. I love it, but others would find it too bitter.

I also like very bitter beers, but I've sworn off of beer, because of what it does to my belly.

Anyway, I do prefer bitter things while others prefer eating sweets. And, I feel no woe, and no remorse.


Mmm. I'm now distracted from the point of this discussion, and I don't mind at all. :D



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10 Jan 2012, 11:02 am

While the Christians are feasting on ham and chocolate Easter bunnies, the Jews are supposed to be eating matzah crackers and bitter herbs

http://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover ... -Herbs.htm

...apparently horseradish, endive and romaine lettuce.

I really don't like horseradish. But endive and romaine lettuce: these aren't herbs, and these aren't bitter. But, they aren't sweet, either.

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Woe unto them....that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


Maybe the Christians are in trouble for the Chocolate Easter bunnies (unless they were made out of unsweetened chocolate), and the Jews are in trouble for replacing bitter herbs with bland vegetables? Of course, if they chow down on a generous portion of horseradish, then that will more than make up for the bland vegetables.



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10 Jan 2012, 11:05 am

I hate Passover foods. And the feast.



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10 Jan 2012, 11:12 am

Bun wrote:
I hate Passover foods. And the feast.


I don't.



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10 Jan 2012, 11:13 am

What do you like about it?



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10 Jan 2012, 11:20 am

Bun wrote:
What do you like about it?


The seder of Pesach and the foods.



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10 Jan 2012, 11:21 am

Good, it makes things easier for you. :D



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10 Jan 2012, 11:23 am

:D