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JNathanK
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05 Feb 2012, 5:42 am

13 Virtues

"Franklin sought to cultivate his character by a plan of 13 virtues, which he developed at age 20 (in 1726) and continued to practice in some form for the rest of his life. His autobiography lists his 13 virtues as:

1 "Temperance. Eat not to dullness; drink not to elevation."
2 "Silence. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation."
3 "Order. Let all your things have their places; let each part of your business have its time."
4 "Resolution. Resolve to perform what you ought; perform without fail what you resolve."
5 "Frugality. Make no expense but to do good to others or yourself; i.e., waste nothing."
6 "Industry. Lose no time; be always employ'd in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions."
7 "Sincerity. Use no hurtful deceit; think innocently and justly, and, if you speak, speak accordingly."
8 "Justice. Wrong none by doing injuries, or omitting the benefits that are your duty."
9 "Moderation. Avoid extremes; forbear resenting injuries so much as you think they deserve."
10 "Cleanliness. Tolerate no uncleanliness in body, cloaths, or habitation."
11 "Tranquility. Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents common or unavoidable."
12 "Chastity. Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dullness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another's
peace or reputation."
13 "Humility. Imitate Jesus and Socrates."

Franklin did not try to work on them all at once. Instead, he would work on one and only one each week "leaving all others to their ordinary chance". While Franklin did not live completely by his virtues and by his own admission, he fell short of them many times, he believed the attempt made him a better man contributing greatly to his success and happiness, which is why in his autobiography, he devoted more pages to this plan than to any other single point; in his autobiography Franklin wrote, "I hope, therefore, that some of my descendants may follow the example and reap the benefit."

Being that I'm a descendent of the revolution, I think I'll try to follow these, because they're all good virtues imo. I wish more Americans would strive for these goals. Maybe Franklin wasn't successful in mastering all these virtues, but he was human, and at least he tried. I don't see too many people trying today or caring. We have a revolution to maintain and tyranny to keep at bay. We have to be more upright in our moral character I think.

We could create the greatest civilization on earth, but we've preoccupied ourselves with degenerative forms of sensual hedonism of all verities whether it be drugs, alcohol, pornography, reality tv, or mass consumerism.



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05 Feb 2012, 7:21 am

JNathanK wrote:
We could create the greatest civilization on earth, but we've preoccupied ourselves with degenerative forms of sensual hedonism of all verities whether it be drugs, alcohol, pornography, reality tv, or mass consumerism.


Sensual hedonism could be considered a virtue...


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05 Feb 2012, 11:49 am

NarcissusSavage wrote:
JNathanK wrote:
We could create the greatest civilization on earth, but we've preoccupied ourselves with degenerative forms of sensual hedonism of all verities whether it be drugs, alcohol, pornography, reality tv, or mass consumerism.


Sensual hedonism could be considered a virtue...


Virtue is about cultivating moral strength. Over indulging in sensual pleasure, vice., comes too easy for us humans and can often turn us into slaves of habit addiction. True freedom and true morality comes from being able to exercise self restraint and control. More long lasting and fulfilling pleasure also comes from more delayed forms of gratification that require hard work and the cultivation of stronger human connections and bonds.

For example, its way more fulfilling, meaningful, and constructive to strengthen ties with your family than it is to shoot heroin and stare at porn.



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06 Feb 2012, 10:07 am

JNathanK wrote:
13 Virtues

"Franklin sought to cultivate his character by a plan of 13 virtues, which he developed at age 20 (in 1726) and continued to practice in some form for the rest of his life. His autobiography lists his 13 virtues as:

1 "Temperance. Eat not to dullness; drink not to elevation."
2 "Silence. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation."
3 "Order. Let all your things have their places; let each part of your business have its time."
4 "Resolution. Resolve to perform what you ought; perform without fail what you resolve."
5 "Frugality. Make no expense but to do good to others or yourself; i.e., waste nothing."
6 "Industry. Lose no time; be always employ'd in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions."
7 "Sincerity. Use no hurtful deceit; think innocently and justly, and, if you speak, speak accordingly."
8 "Justice. Wrong none by doing injuries, or omitting the benefits that are your duty."
9 "Moderation. Avoid extremes; forbear resenting injuries so much as you think they deserve."
10 "Cleanliness. Tolerate no uncleanliness in body, cloaths, or habitation."
11 "Tranquility. Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents common or unavoidable."
12 "Chastity. Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dullness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another's
peace or reputation."
13 "Humility. Imitate Jesus and Socrates."

Franklin did not try to work on them all at once. Instead, he would work on one and only one each week "leaving all others to their ordinary chance". While Franklin did not live completely by his virtues and by his own admission, he fell short of them many times, he believed the attempt made him a better man contributing greatly to his success and happiness, which is why in his autobiography, he devoted more pages to this plan than to any other single point; in his autobiography Franklin wrote, "I hope, therefore, that some of my descendants may follow the example and reap the benefit."

Being that I'm a descendent of the revolution, I think I'll try to follow these, because they're all good virtues imo. I wish more Americans would strive for these goals. Maybe Franklin wasn't successful in mastering all these virtues, but he was human, and at least he tried. I don't see too many people trying today or caring. We have a revolution to maintain and tyranny to keep at bay. We have to be more upright in our moral character I think.

We could create the greatest civilization on earth, but we've preoccupied ourselves with degenerative forms of sensual hedonism of all verities whether it be drugs, alcohol, pornography, reality tv, or mass consumerism.


When B.F. was in France he neglected #12 quite a bit. By the way, have you ever read his essay: "In Praise of Older Women"?

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06 Feb 2012, 10:46 am

Sounds like a very healthy, safe, practical way to live.
Dull, though.



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06 Feb 2012, 5:17 pm

ruveyn wrote:

When B.F. was in France he neglected #12 quite a bit. By the way, have you ever read his essay: "In Praise of Older Women"?

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Yah, I know he liked to bang older women with menopause, because they wouldn't get pregnant. However, they're still good virtues, and people should strive toward them. I just see too many people not caring anymore at all about anything. A lot of people don't even wanna try anymore.



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06 Feb 2012, 5:26 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
Sounds like a very healthy, safe, practical way to live.
Dull, though.


I think over-indulgence leads to dullness too though. It leaves people jaded and desensitized. I've known a fair number of people who live like that and take on a number of addictions that lead to crap living.

I think its better to have delayed gratification concerning sensual pleasures just so that when you do indulge it feels that much better and has more meaning.

The dull void left by self moderation would be better filled by intellectual, artistic, social pursuits, etc etc., as opposed to over eating, over drinking, over masturbating, etc etc.