Page 1 of 1 [ 8 posts ] 

sinsboldly
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,488
Location: Bandon-by-the-Sea, Oregon

02 Jun 2007, 2:34 pm

I vaguely recall a time when Surgeon General was a big deal. C. Everett Koop became a prominent national figure in the 1980s, and seemed to take the position from honorary title to leading public health official.

Other than Joycelyn Elders, who gained unwelcome notoriety, ( for advocating masturbation in stead of pre-marital sex, by the way)the position hasn't garnered much attention since.

However, with President Bush's new nominee for the job, Joseph Holsinger, we're probably going to hear quite a bit more about the position.

I Quote:

Holsinger and his wife founded Hope Springs Community Church in a warehouse at 1109 Versailles Road. Calhoun called it a socially diverse congregation with a "very vital recovery ministry." It serves the homeless and those with addictions to drugs, alcohol and sex; and it has a Spanish-language Hispanic congregation with its own pastor. [...]

Hope Springs also ministers to people who no longer wish to be gay or lesbian, Calhoun said.
"We see that as an issue not of orientation but of lifestyle," he said. "We have people who seek to walk out of that lifestyle."

Holsinger, in his capacity as a high-ranking official in the United Methodist Church, also opposed allowing a lesbian to be an associate pastor, and backed another pastor who refused to let a gay man join his church.

The Surgeon General needs Senate confirmation.

I am gonna watch those hearings!



JonnyBGoode
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 820
Location: Long Beach, CA

02 Jun 2007, 2:43 pm

I say good for him. Anyone who thinks other than the "politically correct" view on homosexual behavior these days is ridiculed and marginalized, even though the jury is really still out. And if these people that come to him want to change... where's the harm in helping them?


_________________
18:33. Press 'Return'


jimservo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,964
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs

02 Jun 2007, 2:46 pm

I need to learn more. This doesn't necessary seem like it would bar him. Of course, he his says he won't enforce laws, ex cetera, then that would. I need to know a bit more.



skafather84
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,848
Location: New Orleans, LA

02 Jun 2007, 2:57 pm

f**k bush.


edit:


Said Bush:

As America's chief health educator, he will be charged with providing the best scientific information available on how Americans can make smart choices that improve their health and reduce their risk of illness and injury.





for some reason i doubt a pastor who runs a church that "cures gays" will be the best source of scientific information and the best person qualified to analyze scientific data presented.



sinsboldly
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,488
Location: Bandon-by-the-Sea, Oregon

02 Jun 2007, 4:18 pm

It does say he wants to help them out of the LIFESTYLE, but not the orientation.
But it the orientation is supposed to be ah. . 'incorrect'...

I am looking forward to the Senate hearings.


Merle



skafather84
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,848
Location: New Orleans, LA

02 Jun 2007, 4:30 pm

you misunderstand what he's saying. he's saying that there is no orientation and it's simply a lifestyle choice.



richardbenson
Xfractor Card #351
Xfractor Card #351

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,553
Location: Leave only a footprint behind

02 Jun 2007, 5:05 pm

i like that surgeon general that looks like abraham lincon



sinsboldly
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,488
Location: Bandon-by-the-Sea, Oregon

03 Jun 2007, 10:41 am

skafather84 wrote:
you misunderstand what he's saying. he's saying that there is no orientation and it's simply a lifestyle choice.


oh, goodness, thank you for pointing that out to me, skafather84! Here I was, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. . .

(snark) of course, I remember distinctly when I made the choice to be heterosexual! My parents had a party for me and all my friends came. We had a nice big ice cream "CHOICE DAY" cake from Baskin-Robbins and I got all sorts of presents. (snark)

:roll: Remember YOUR choice day? Ah. . memories, good memories :roll:



Merle