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24 Mar 2012, 11:58 am

Did Bin Laden believe that the Jews were powerful and ran and had control over the World ?

Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'Online document: the full text of Osama bin Laden's "letter to the American people", reported in today's Observer. The letter first appeared on the internet in Arabic and has since been translated and circulated by Islamists in Britain.

Observer.co.uk, Sunday 24 November 2002 07.07 EST

(x) Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people, who hold sway in their political parties, and fund their election campaigns with their gifts. Behind them stand the Jews, who control your policies, media and economy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

Bin Laden was profoundly anti-Semitic, and delivered many warnings against alleged Jewish conspiracies: "These Jews are masters of usury and leaders in treachery. They will leave you nothing, either in this world or the next."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beliefs_an ... _bin_Laden

One Root of Bin Laden’s Terrorism: Hatred of Jews
Hatred of Jews and claims that the US “attacked” Muslims by “helping Jews occupy Palestine” were one root of Bin Laden’s terror.
By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 5/2/2011, 3:43 PM / Last Update: 5/2/2011, 4:20 PM



In his “Letter to America” in 2002, after the 9/11 attacks, Bin Laden wrote, "Some American writers have published articles under the title 'On what basis are we fighting?'... Because you attacked us and continue to attack us. You attacked us in Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years; years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation. The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/143842



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24 Mar 2012, 12:02 pm

Yes. Bin Laden believed it like any paranoid Anti-Semite so believes. Islam has been at war with the Jews since Jewish dwellers in Arabia rejected Mohammed (pus and blisters upon him) as the Greatest and Last of the Prophets. The Arabian Jews laughed at the idea which get Mohammed (pus and blisters upon him) and his followers riled up which they have been ever since then.

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24 Mar 2012, 1:21 pm

Wasn't Osama a Semite himself?



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24 Mar 2012, 1:25 pm

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Yes. Bin Laden believed it like any paranoid Anti-Semite so believes. Islam has been at war with the Jews since Jewish dwellers in Arabia rejected Mohammed (pus and blisters upon him) as the Greatest and Last of the Prophets. The Arabian Jews laughed at the idea which get Mohammed (pus and blisters upon him) and his followers riled up which they have been ever since then.

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Correct these are facts 8)



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24 Mar 2012, 1:57 pm

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Wasn't Osama a Semite himself?


The term "anti-semite" was invented by German philosopher Willhelm Marr -specifically- to mean one who hates Jews for being Jews. The term is a euphemism and never referred to semites in general.

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24 Mar 2012, 2:02 pm

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Wasn't Osama a Semite himself?


The term "anti-semite" was invented by German philosopher Willhelm Marr -specifically- to mean one who hates Jews for being Jews. The term is a euphemism and never referred to semites in general.

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Yeah...I hate that term and its sad that of course some one German had to create it as if we dont have to deal with people bringing up ww2 and throwing it in our faces any chance they get. Lets not for get ww1 which wasnt really Germany fault but was forced to pay for the war.



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24 Mar 2012, 2:02 pm

It's a misleading term because there are more Semitic groups besides Jews, and not all Jews are Semitic.



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24 Mar 2012, 2:25 pm

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It's a misleading term because there are more Semitic groups besides Jews, and not all Jews are Semitic.


How about "Jew-hatred"?



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24 Mar 2012, 2:25 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Wasn't Osama a Semite himself?


The term "anti-semite" was invented by German philosopher Willhelm Marr -specifically- to mean one who hates Jews for being Jews. The term is a euphemism and never referred to semites in general.

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Yeah...I hate that term and its sad that of course some one German had to create it as if we dont have to deal with people bringing up ww2 and throwing it in our faces any chance they get. Lets not for get ww1 which wasnt really Germany fault but was forced to pay for the war.


Yes, Germany was left with sole responsibility of a war which they had been dragged into, leaving them humiliated, and especially broke when the depression hit. Looking for someone to blame, a charismatic leader - Adolf Hitler - harnessed the justifiable rage, German pride and nationalism, but also unlocked the festering Antisemitism deeply rooted within German society. Appealing to blind emotion, Hitler played up on notions that the Jews had betrayed the Fatherland in the last war, which unfortunately most Germans had bought into. Combine that with the fact that Hitler had turned Germany from an economic wreck back into an industrial powerhouse in a few years, the German people were ready to follow him to hell. And the Jews unfortunately were the recipients of the irrational hate Hitler had unleashed.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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24 Mar 2012, 2:31 pm

Yeah, Bin Laden was quite a little nutter :lol:


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24 Mar 2012, 2:36 pm

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Yes, Germany was left with sole responsibility of a war which they had been dragged into, leaving them humiliated, and especially broke when the depression hit. Looking for someone to blame, a charismatic leader - Adolf Hitler - harnessed the justifiable rage, German pride and nationalism, but also unlocked the festering Antisemitism deeply rooted within German society. Appealing to blind emotion, Hitler played up on notions that the Jews had betrayed the Fatherland in the last war, which unfortunately most Germans had bought into. Combine that with the fact that Hitler had turned Germany from an economic wreck back into an industrial powerhouse in a few years, the German people were ready to follow him to hell. And the Jews unfortunately were the recipients of the irrational hate Hitler had unleashed.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The German economy, as pumped up by Hitler, was ultimately a house of cards. It required loot to function. That is why Hitler opted for war, even after the territories wrongfully seized by France were gotten back. If Hitler had stopped with the return of the Rheinland and perhaps the union with Austria, he would have been hailed as the greatest German statesman ever born. But there was no way Hitler and his Nazi buddies could stop the expansion. Had Germany succeeded in seizing the Ukrane and some of the Russian farmland, it would have become the promised powerhouse. But that never came about. Hitler's fortunes had turned around badly with his failure to wreck the Soviet Union in 1942 and 1943.

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24 Mar 2012, 2:36 pm

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It's a misleading term because there are more Semitic groups besides Jews, and not all Jews are Semitic.


How about "Jew-hatred"?


Anti-Jew? Either sounds like a better term than anti-Semitic.



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24 Mar 2012, 2:38 pm

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It's a misleading term because there are more Semitic groups besides Jews, and not all Jews are Semitic.


How about "Jew-hatred"?


Anti-Jew? Either sounds like a better term than anti-Semitic.


Willhelm Marr wanted a "scientific" sounding term. Jew-Hater did not quite fill the bill. Marr wanted to put hatred of Jews on a cultural plane rather than a religious plane.

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24 Mar 2012, 2:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Tequila wrote:
snapcap wrote:
It's a misleading term because there are more Semitic groups besides Jews, and not all Jews are Semitic.


How about "Jew-hatred"?


Anti-Jew? Either sounds like a better term than anti-Semitic.


Willhelm Marr wanted a "scientific" sounding term. Jew-Hater did not quite fill the bill. Marr wanted to put hatred of Jews on a cultural plane rather than a religious plane.

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Anti-Hebrew would have done the trick as well as being more right on.



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24 Mar 2012, 2:53 pm

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Yes, Germany was left with sole responsibility of a war which they had been dragged into, leaving them humiliated, and especially broke when the depression hit. Looking for someone to blame, a charismatic leader - Adolf Hitler - harnessed the justifiable rage, German pride and nationalism, but also unlocked the festering Antisemitism deeply rooted within German society. Appealing to blind emotion, Hitler played up on notions that the Jews had betrayed the Fatherland in the last war, which unfortunately most Germans had bought into. Combine that with the fact that Hitler had turned Germany from an economic wreck back into an industrial powerhouse in a few years, the German people were ready to follow him to hell. And the Jews unfortunately were the recipients of the irrational hate Hitler had unleashed.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The German economy, as pumped up by Hitler, was ultimately a house of cards. It required loot to function. That is why Hitler opted for war, even after the territories wrongfully seized by France were gotten back. If Hitler had stopped with the return of the Rheinland and perhaps the union with Austria, he would have been hailed as the greatest German statesman ever born. But there was no way Hitler and his Nazi buddies could stop the expansion. Had Germany succeeded in seizing the Ukrane and some of the Russian farmland, it would have become the promised powerhouse. But that never came about. Hitler's fortunes had turned around badly with his failure to wreck the Soviet Union in 1942 and 1943.

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That is absolutely true. The German economy was so geared for war, that without it, a new depression would have washed over the land in no time. It was for this reason why Anti-Nazis on the German General Staff had tried to stall Hitler, telling him that Germany would not be ready for war till the 1950's. But as we all know, Hitler took command of the armed forces himself, and forced the issue.
The funny thing is, Hitler only turned east toward the Soviet Union when his war with England had gotten stuck, and Rudolph Hess had convinced him that their "Aryan brothers" in England would join Germany in a racial war against the Slavs. Obviously, that didn't work, anymore than did nutty Rudy's secret flight to Britain to sue for peace.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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24 Mar 2012, 3:02 pm

Was Bin Laden anti-jew?

I dunno, is the pope Catholic?