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Interesting 
Although I think in case of Muhammad, it makes little difference if he existed or not. We know that someone in the Arab world had a look at Judeo-Christian religious texts, liked what he saw, and wrote his own, somewhat plagiaristic book that came to be known as the Quran. That could have been Muhammad or somebody who made up Muhammad as a story character. In the end, it doesn't really matter.
I think the questionable historicity of Jesus is different insofar that Jesus was supposed to be the superpowered son of god who returned from the dead. That makes his existence a lot less believable than that of any mortal person mentioned in the Bible, the Tanakh or the Quran. There is little reason to doubt that the existence of Abraham or Saul/Paul of Tarsus, for example. Whereas Jesus' believability is more akin to that of the Greek demigods Heracles and Perseus.
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24 Apr 2012, 7:26 pm
Although I think in case of Muhammad, it makes little difference if he existed or not. We know that someone in the Arab world had a look at Judeo-Christian religious texts, liked what he saw, and wrote his own, somewhat plagiaristic book that came to be known as the Quran. That could have been Muhammad or somebody who made up Muhammad as a story character. In the end, it doesn't really matter.I think the questionable historicity of Jesus is different insofar that Jesus was supposed to be the superpowered son of god who returned from the dead. That makes his existence a lot less believable than that of any mortal person mentioned in the Bible, the Tanakh or the Quran. There is little reason to doubt that the existence of Abraham or Saul/Paul of Tarsus, for example. Whereas Jesus' believability is more akin to that of the Greek demigods Heracles and Perseus.
Like Islam, Christianity just couldn't have appeared out of nowhere without a founder, even if you believe Christ was only a man.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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24 Apr 2012, 7:30 pm
Although I think in case of Muhammad, it makes little difference if he existed or not. We know that someone in the Arab world had a look at Judeo-Christian religious texts, liked what he saw, and wrote his own, somewhat plagiaristic book that came to be known as the Quran. That could have been Muhammad or somebody who made up Muhammad as a story character. In the end, it doesn't really matter.I think the questionable historicity of Jesus is different insofar that Jesus was supposed to be the superpowered son of god who returned from the dead. That makes his existence a lot less believable than that of any mortal person mentioned in the Bible, the Tanakh or the Quran. There is little reason to doubt that the existence of Abraham or Saul/Paul of Tarsus, for example. Whereas Jesus' believability is more akin to that of the Greek demigods Heracles and Perseus.
Like Islam, Christianity just couldn't have appeared out of nowhere without a founder, even if you believe Christ was only a man.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I believe Christ was a man just like any other and I accept him as the founder of my faith all religions are man made.
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24 Apr 2012, 7:44 pm
Although I think in case of Muhammad, it makes little difference if he existed or not. We know that someone in the Arab world had a look at Judeo-Christian religious texts, liked what he saw, and wrote his own, somewhat plagiaristic book that came to be known as the Quran. That could have been Muhammad or somebody who made up Muhammad as a story character. In the end, it doesn't really matter.I think the questionable historicity of Jesus is different insofar that Jesus was supposed to be the superpowered son of god who returned from the dead. That makes his existence a lot less believable than that of any mortal person mentioned in the Bible, the Tanakh or the Quran. There is little reason to doubt that the existence of Abraham or Saul/Paul of Tarsus, for example. Whereas Jesus' believability is more akin to that of the Greek demigods Heracles and Perseus.
Like Islam, Christianity just couldn't have appeared out of nowhere without a founder, even if you believe Christ was only a man.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I believe Christ was a man just like any other and I accept him as the founder of my faith all religions are man made.
I'm pretty certain Christ the man existed. My faith tells me he was also God.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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24 Apr 2012, 7:49 pm
Although I think in case of Muhammad, it makes little difference if he existed or not. We know that someone in the Arab world had a look at Judeo-Christian religious texts, liked what he saw, and wrote his own, somewhat plagiaristic book that came to be known as the Quran. That could have been Muhammad or somebody who made up Muhammad as a story character. In the end, it doesn't really matter.I think the questionable historicity of Jesus is different insofar that Jesus was supposed to be the superpowered son of god who returned from the dead. That makes his existence a lot less believable than that of any mortal person mentioned in the Bible, the Tanakh or the Quran. There is little reason to doubt that the existence of Abraham or Saul/Paul of Tarsus, for example. Whereas Jesus' believability is more akin to that of the Greek demigods Heracles and Perseus.
Like Islam, Christianity just couldn't have appeared out of nowhere without a founder, even if you believe Christ was only a man.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I believe Christ was a man just like any other and I accept him as the founder of my faith all religions are man made.
I'm pretty certain Christ the man existed. My faith tells me he was also God.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
As does mine also I do accept Muhammad as one of the many prophets.
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