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donnie_darko
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23 Apr 2012, 3:18 pm

I was talking to a friend about this and we agree, that everyone, even atheists, have 'faith' in certain things that give them comfort because it is only human to do so.

An atheist might not even have 'faith' in atheism, but in their family, that they will be remembered, or are loved, or whatever. And some religious people might have a 'truer' religion than the one they think they believe in.

I personally think it's human to feel certain about certain things, even if there isn't a logical reason to do so, and that no matter how logical a person is, there is something they have some sort of 'faith' in.



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23 Apr 2012, 3:23 pm

Having faith that you wife loves you is not the same as having faith in that "god" loves you.



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23 Apr 2012, 3:25 pm

TM wrote:
Having faith that you wife loves you is not the same as having faith in that "god" loves you.


Or is it?



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23 Apr 2012, 4:02 pm

The exact reason someone believes is a bit different than the next person's.


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23 Apr 2012, 5:04 pm

Yep, am a devote Kopite 8)

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The word 'fantastic' has been used many times, so I would have to invent another word to fully describe the Anfield spectators. It is more than fanaticism, it's a religion. To the many thousands who come here to worship, Anfield isn't a football ground, it's a sort of shrine. These people are not simply fans, they're ...more like members of one extended family.


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ANFIELD is our church!
THE KOP is our choir!

Kopite: A religion?


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23 Apr 2012, 7:30 pm

TM wrote:
Having faith that you wife loves you is not the same as having faith in that "god" loves you.


For good reason. The former can be determined empirically. The latter not.

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23 Apr 2012, 9:02 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
TM wrote:
Having faith that you wife loves you is not the same as having faith in that "god" loves you.


Or is it?


No


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23 Apr 2012, 9:43 pm

I thought Liverpool FC was blue.
Maybe I'm thinking of a different team.

Neermind, I was thinking of Leeds... :?



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24 Apr 2012, 3:12 am

Yes.



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24 Apr 2012, 3:23 am

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People in New Zealand don't generally care if you're an atheist, but it is compulsory to believe in the All Blacks. I mean, if the All Blacks aren't the world's greatest rugby union team, then why does the universe exist? Where would we get our morals from?



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24 Apr 2012, 3:38 am

I am a christian and a devot methodist my religion is over 5000 years old their are over 2,039,000,000 christians in the world today. A good friend of mine is a Muslim his religion is over 1400 years old. One of my best friends is Jewish his faith is over 1900 BCE years old. All three faiths are the most popluar in the world and the middel east is the home to all of them. Christanity Christianity began in Israel in the city of Bethlehem. Islam started in Makkah (Mecca in English) in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Judisam began in Israel this was the start of the Jewish people. The Jewish people became a nation in Africa (Mount Sinai) when God spoke to them and they accepted his teaching or Torah, which is the basis of Judaism. Many Jewish Christian and Muslim americans travel to the middel east and travel to the middel east viewed by Jews Christians and Muslims as the Holy Land. The reason the three religion are called Abrahamic religions is because they are religions originating from the traditions of Iron Age proto-Judaism.



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24 Apr 2012, 4:33 am

Joker wrote:
I am a christian and a devot methodist my religion is over 5000 years old ...


If Jesus was born in the year 1-4 and began to preach at age 30 (i.e., in the year 31-35), Christianity should be between 1977 and 1981 years old. Judaism is not Christianity.



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24 Apr 2012, 7:02 am

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Judaism comes in at 12th.
Non-believers at 3rd.

check your facts.



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24 Apr 2012, 2:07 pm

I would say that people who say they are Christians or Muslims or Jews, or Hindus, etc don't have their own religion. They have someone elses.



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24 Apr 2012, 7:19 pm

CrazyCatLord wrote:
Joker wrote:
I am a christian and a devot methodist my religion is over 5000 years old ...


If Jesus was born in the year 1-4 and began to preach at age 30 (i.e., in the year 31-35), Christianity should be between 1977 and 1981 years old. Judaism is not Christianity.


Christianity has jewish roots their for it is in the same religious family as Judaism we both share a family history with each other and it all began with Abraham.



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25 Apr 2012, 9:23 am

I don't have any faith. I gamble.