Is it possible to be christian without being religious?

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14 May 2012, 5:55 pm

Well this is the thing. Growing up, like a lot of western aspies, i got exposed to Christianity and rather than taking the attitude that many aspies do, the attitude that one small part of Christianity is nonsense so i'll ignore the whole lot, i took the attitude that i as long as i was going to be forced to listen to what they were talking about i may as well get something from the experience.


But i just realised though, doesn't that mean that by taking on the moral lessons of Christianity, even though i don't actually identify with Christianity, doesn't that kinda make me a Christian regardless? I'm a follower of Christs teachings, that means im a Christian right? I find myself in the position of essentially being a Christian without the actual religious belief.

Does this make me a better Christian? The fact that i follow the rules because i believe in them rather than looking forward to some kind of reward? I don't believe that something bad will happen to me if i'm not nice, but i'm nice anyway. Isn't that in fact even more Christian than what most people would usually term Christian?



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14 May 2012, 5:58 pm

No, it makes you an agnostic. You don't need religion for morals.



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14 May 2012, 6:03 pm

Culturally Christian maybe, but then again, I always viewed going to the Bible for morals is like going to Bernie Madoff for business ethics.



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14 May 2012, 6:03 pm

Why would you want to self-apply that term? Just look at what people have associated with it.



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14 May 2012, 6:54 pm

Just tell people you're "Down with the Man Jesus, bro" or "Bro, its cool bro, I'm down with the Christ, bro" if they ask


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14 May 2012, 7:12 pm

Christianity is a religion. There are many religions.

They are all based on the set of doctrines that they have issued to define the moral position, ritual practicecs, and ethical expectations of that religion.

I am not an expert. However I see religion sorta like a fraternity. (and don't have much use for them)

Many wars have been fought over religion and many religions encourage activity that you may not find appropriate, as you indicated.

Religion, in my opinion is man's justification for his faith. (In a creator of man, or supreme being). I personally don't feel a need to justify my faith so I don't feel the need to belong to a religion.(fraternity)

Christianity subscribes to the existance of Jesus as the son of God and that his death was the absolution of all man's sin's.

So see you can believe in God, and think that your a Christian, but if you don't agree with the Jesus story, technically you are not a Christian. Maybe your beliefs are more in line with Judaism, or some other fraternity.

In my opinion, either you believe in a benevolent spirit or you don't. beyond that its all a matter of whether or not you feel the need to justify that belief thru association with a religion and following their criteria for gaining acceptance into heaven. Although not all religions have a heaven and hell. lol

Faith is pretty simple really. Its the religion that makes it complicated.

Hope that helps.



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14 May 2012, 7:26 pm

"Is it possible to be christian without being religious?"

Yes.

Religion can be rocks thrown in a circle drawn in the dirt.



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15 May 2012, 1:35 am

Timeconsumer wrote:
I'm a follower of Christs teachings, that means im a Christian right? I find myself in the position of essentially being a Christian without the actual religious belief.

I'm curious as to what you mean by the term "religious belief." And also, are there parts of Christ's teachings you consider religious, or is it the aspects outside of Christ's direct teaching that you consider religious?



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15 May 2012, 3:12 am

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15 May 2012, 4:14 am

I'm a bit like that. I don't think that Jesus performed miracles and rose from the dead, and I'm not even sure that there was a single person that we could call "Jesus". But some of the sayings and deeds attributed to Jesus are among my favourite in all of literature. I especially love "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and "everybody loves their friends, the really praiseworthy thing is to love your enemies" (paraphrasing). Powerful stuff.



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15 May 2012, 5:33 am

Religion is at best a ridiculous, silly, fairytale, nonesense and at worst an excuse to torture, murder, and wage war.

You don't believe me?

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, well then look in your history books.



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15 May 2012, 5:55 am

Declension wrote:
I'm a bit like that. I don't think that Jesus performed miracles and rose from the dead, and I'm not even sure that there was a single person that we could call "Jesus". But some of the sayings and deeds attributed to Jesus are among my favourite in all of literature. I especially love "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and "everybody loves their friends, the really praiseworthy thing is to love your enemies" (paraphrasing). Powerful stuff.
True. Even many atheists will agree that Jesus was a great guy (no matter whether he was real or fictional). I went to a comedy show and found there were protesters outside, because the comedian was atheist and they thought he was going to ridicule Jesus. If the protesters had gone to the show, they would have found that the comedian had nothing but good things to say about Jesus (although he did poke fun at some of the passages in the bible).


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15 May 2012, 6:58 am

You can follow the philosophy of Jesus Christ in the new testament, though I think most of the stuff he says is pretty universal and reflected in different belief systems. Really, just do what feels right to you. Do what thou wilt .



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15 May 2012, 7:55 am

No. You have to believe that Christ died, was buried and rose again in order to be a Christian.



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15 May 2012, 1:29 pm

Religious identification is very subjective and I think it should be up to each individual person if and how he or she wishes to be classified.

Sure, here are certain labels like various denominations-- "Catholic," "Jehovah's Witness," etc.-- which have more specific connotations because they involve a certain institution and a definition of orthodoxy and orthopraxis which, while it may have some leniency, generally rules out more than it rules in. To give a silly example, I think it would be a contradiction in terms to say that you are Catholic but you believe that Al Gore is the head of the church and the embodiment of God on earth. Sort of like saying that you're a cat except that you walk on two legs, don't have hair, speak English and are descended from human beings... the word just loses all meaning :lol:

But a broader terms like "Christian" (or for that matter "Pagan," "Buddhist," etc.) has so many different definitions varying through time and space that I think it's fair to say that if you feel like the label fits you, then it probably does. Many people base their religious ideas off of the Bible but have completely different interpretations, ranging from the fundamentalist to the entirely metaphorical. I don't see that anyone has a right to tell you that because you appreciate the message of Jesus but not the more literal Bible stories, you have the "wrong" way of relating to the Bible, you can't call yourself Christian.

If you don't already know about it you might consider looking into Unity church if you're interested in finding other people with similar ideas. They use Christian terminology but seem to focus on the moral philosophy and allow for a great deal of personal differences and subjective interpretations among their members. I am not anything like Christian myself, but the Unity people are interesting and usually very kind and open minded.



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15 May 2012, 1:44 pm

piroflip wrote:
Religion is at best a ridiculous, silly, fairytale, nonesense and at worst an excuse to torture, murder, and wage war.

You don't believe me?

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, well then look in your history books.


I do get tired of this particular sentiment. Lack of food, disputes over territory, ego, and financial transactions gone wrong are by far the greatest cause of war upon the Earth.

Maybe you should be reading the history books...