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JohnConnor
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18 Jul 2012, 1:37 am

Just curious



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18 Jul 2012, 2:06 am

moved to Politics, Philosophy, and Religion.


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18 Jul 2012, 2:59 am

Which Election?



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18 Jul 2012, 10:15 am

Vote? I live in PA and I must make my ID is me.



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18 Jul 2012, 10:36 am

Emile Roemer if the European Union seems to be collapsing by the end of summer;
Geert Wilders if the European Union tries to expand or pass more inane legislation.

If this is about the elections in the United States, I'd vote for Romney for laughs.
But personally, I'd prefer Ron Paul. He's a loveable madman.



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18 Jul 2012, 1:37 pm

I vote John Connor to be president of the Human Resistance Army.



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19 Jul 2012, 3:34 am

In the U.S. election? Anybody but Obama. Well not quite. If I had to chose between Rick Santorum and Barak Obama I would sit the election out.

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19 Jul 2012, 3:44 am

So far Gary Johnson



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19 Jul 2012, 9:02 am

I'm not sure about who I want to vote in. Mit Romney kinda of puzzles with his talk about healthcare. Even though he says he would let the states decide, I don't trust him to stay that way. All I know is that my vote won't be for Obama.


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19 Jul 2012, 9:42 am

The next election? UKIP for the North West England EU parliament constituency. I can't vote for an MEP, so I'll have to vote and there's a party list system.



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19 Jul 2012, 9:43 am

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
Emile Roemer if the European Union seems to be collapsing by the end of summer;
Geert Wilders if the European Union tries to expand or pass more inane legislation.


That's quite a jump isn't it? SP is called "left-wing to far-left" and PVV is called "right-wing to far-right" on Wikipedia.



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19 Jul 2012, 10:05 am

The demorpublicrat? Obomney? The only way to win is to not vote. The entire thing is rigged. Here in Alberta people strategically voted for the PC YET AGAIN because the Wild Rose was the most insane platform anyone has heard aside from the Rural people and rich people, so PC's won and then Allison Redford gets hauled off to a bilderberg meeting in Davos. Like WTF?



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19 Jul 2012, 10:18 am

Tequila wrote:
The next election? UKIP for the North West England EU parliament constituency. I can't vote for an MEP, so I'll have to vote and there's a party list system.


I considered UKIP despite having a few less than savoury members. A lot of their policies are economically sound and it's a shame they lumped in with BNP despite them refusing to take any ex BNP voters due to party racism.



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19 Jul 2012, 10:49 am

JanuaryMan wrote:
I considered UKIP despite having a few less than savoury members.


Who might you be thinking of? All political parties have their fair share of racists and homophobes. Problem is that they tend to be ignored more in the bigger parties - there are a lot of bigoted Tories and Labour supporters, and far-left political parties are riddled with nasties.

What you must also take into account is that there is a big gulf in UKIP itself about political beliefs. There are a lot of people in UKIP who are very socially conservative.

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A lot of their policies are economically sound and it's a shame they lumped in with BNP despite them refusing to take any ex BNP voters due to party racism.
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Exactly. UKIP don't want racists in their ranks and any people who are current or former members of the BNP, BFP, BPP, UKFP, NF and the EDL street movement aren't welcome in UKIP and those that are found to be ex-these organisations are booted out when found.

UKIP are about as far away from the likes of the BNP and you can get. The party ideology is completely different. Really, the only similarity is that they both have "British"/"UK" in their names.



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19 Jul 2012, 12:39 pm

Tequila wrote:
All political parties have their fair share of racists and homophobes. Problem is that they tend to be ignored more in the bigger parties - there are a lot of bigoted Tories and Labour supporters, and far-left political parties are riddled with nasties.


That's true. I once met a guy who said he was intending to vote for a social-liberal green party. He said:
"I like the multiculturalism thing. At least fundamentalists know how to deal with homosexuals - those are disgusting."

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That's quite a jump isn't it? SP is called "left-wing to far-left" and PVV is called "right-wing to far-right" on Wikipedia.


Apart from their core focus and their slight-but-not-extreme difference in views on culture and immigration, they're pretty much identical. In the 1980s, the still somewhat maoist Socialist Party proposed to pay foreigners a relatively large sum of money to move back to their countries of origin and help develop those instead of leeching off collapsing welfare systems here. It was quickly dubbed "de oprotpremie", or "the get out premium". Unfortunately, that one was never passed.

There are two things I have to take into account when deciding what I'll vote for. The first is their goal. While some of the PVV's views are extremely accurate and shared by a majority of all voters, he alienates a large portion of them by his more zany ideas. Some of his ideas are that the European Union flag should be taken down from all public buildings, that people in serious debt should be forced to follow a personal finance course paid from their own pockets, inspections of coffee houses for welfare fraud, and canceling welfare for people who he thinks speaks bad Dutch or wears islamic clothing.

The second thing is their final role. It looks like the Socialist Party might become the largest party in parliament in September. And having the largest party in parliament opposing everything the European Union is doing and has done for the past ten years certainly has a lot of advantages. They're both considered a bit eurosceptic, Wilders a lot more than Roemer, but Wilders is aiming to hit the European Union while Roemer is aiming to hit the 'traditional elite' of liberal and social democratic parties that have brought us into this mess. Someone not unlike Roemer, but much less eurosceptic, has been elected leader of labour now.

In any case, my vote will be a protest vote against the European Union.



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19 Jul 2012, 11:39 pm

Wow now I feel bad for not following European Politics a little more closely.
I'm going for Obama. Some might call him a Demopublicrat but that IS what I like about him. To me that says I have a sense of balance. I am not too far left or too far right.