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Whom do you support for President of Venezuela?
Hugo Chavez 75%  75%  [ 6 ]
Henrique Capriles 25%  25%  [ 2 ]
Just show the results 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 8

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22 Jul 2012, 11:15 am

This October 6, Venezuela will have its presidential election, one month before the USA.

Politics between the two countries are overlapping.

The USA Today (not the most intelligent of news sources) calls Chavez the "dictator of Venezuela"

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... o-chavez/1

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Romney jumped on Obama for saying this week that Chavez, the dictator of Venezuela, does not pose a serious threat to U.S. national security.

"It is disturbing to see him downplaying the threat posed to U.S. interests by a regime that openly wishes us ill," Romney said in a statement. "President Obama's remarks continue a pattern of weakness in his foreign policy, one that has emboldened adversaries and diminished U.S. influence."

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Obama's campaign fired back, saying that the president's policy has marginalized Chavez in the Latin world. Romney "is only playing into the hands of Chavez by acting like he's 10 feet tall,"

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Here's what Obama said about Chavez to a Miami television station in an interview this week: "....overall, my sense is that what Mr. Chavez has done over the last several years has not had a serious national security impact on us."


Meanwhile, in Venezuela:

http://news.yahoo.com/chavez-says-elect ... 08602.html

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The two electoral races bumped against each other last week when President Barack Obama and his Republican rival, Romney, sparred over the risk posed by Chavez, and the Venezuelan leader sought to soften his radical image a touch by saying Obama was a "good guy."

Holding forth at a large rally in the western city of Maracaibo where he sang and pretended to play the guitar with a band, Chavez said opposition candidate Henrique Capriles resembled Romney, who hopes to replace Obama in the White House.

"What could better explain his program?" he asked. "Maybe it's the far-right candidate in North America, Romney. It's their plan. Their plan is to subjugate Venezuela again to the service of imperialism, of capitalism."

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Boasting his trademark red beret at the rally on Saturday, Chavez mocked Capriles' intellect and said it did not matter if he had visited so much of Venezuela in such a short time.

"So what if he's visited 80 towns in 15 days? ... The loser can't explain anything because he knows nothing. He is nothing. He represents what they call nihilism: nothing, the negation of everything," Chavez said.

"He's trying to cheat people so he's taken on this 'ghost' strategy. Wooo! Scaring people, wooo! They ask him something and he just keeps running," he said, mimicking a child wearing a bed sheet and pretending to be ghost.

That drew laughter from the crowd, including one man who had been waving a large cardboard cut-out of Chavez gripping a frightened-looking Capriles in a head lock and swinging a boxing glove-clad fist.


President Chavez is really funny. :lol:

It does make for an interesting election season, with Venezuela and the USA coinciding so closely, and candidates in both countries invoking each other's candidates.



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22 Jul 2012, 11:29 am

I'd pick Hugo Chavez, the most manly man ever to have ruled Venezuela. His comments on plastic surgery were really funny.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/venezuela- ... AwpgqMVI3V

The only Venezuelan I've ever spoken to, however, hated the man. Probably because Venezuelans like big boobs.



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22 Jul 2012, 11:34 am

Remember that the old regime before Chavez killed hundreds of people in the streets in the name of the IMF in February 1989. The opposition wants to return to these dark times.



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22 Jul 2012, 11:56 am

Chavez is a clown.

An utter clown.

But cancer will get rid of him soon anyway.

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Remember that the old regime before Chavez killed hundreds of people in the streets in the name of the IMF in February 1989. The opposition wants to return to these dark times.
This is the sort of clownish non-sense that abounds in Chavez apologists. Everything has to be the fallacy of the missing middle. Always a variation of "so you don't like Chavez, the only alternative is to go back to FMI times",

I request all the 1st world leftists to stop being utter hypocrites.

Next time you complain about London being very bad on rioters, please remember all the stunts and tricks Chavez and his friends' pull on any sort of protest. Next time you complain about how the media ignores your occupier fights, please keep in mind how these clowns in South America control their own press and threaten freedom of speech at ultra speed. Next time you complain about BP drilling in the pole, please be my guest and consider how Morales "indigenous" and green government has fought with claws and tooth to build a high way completely breaking apart a natural reserve in the Amazon.


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22 Jul 2012, 12:21 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
Chavez is a clown.

An utter clown.

But cancer will get rid of him soon anyway.



That is what Americans are supposed to think.

I remember when Venezuela was giving free heating oil to low-income Americans.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scgsTsOUrBQ&feature=related[/youtube]

Not something a Republican would do.



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22 Jul 2012, 12:29 pm

Free heating oil? That is un-American. Also all the beneficiaries are Communist


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22 Jul 2012, 12:32 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5t2D7ZFYl4[/youtube]

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22 Jul 2012, 1:16 pm

There is quite a lot of hyperbole in both elections.

Imagine: Hugo Chavez comparing his opponent to Mitt Romney. His opponent is nowhere near as bad as Mitt Romney. :lol:



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22 Jul 2012, 2:42 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
Chavez is a clown.

An utter clown.

But cancer will get rid of him soon anyway.


Has he not recovered?

I thought he was lying about recovering because if his cancer has spread, he can't recover.


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22 Jul 2012, 2:43 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
Chavez is a clown.

An utter clown.

But cancer will get rid of him soon anyway.


Has he not recovered?

I thought he was lying about recovering because if his cancer has spread, he can't recover.


Chavez actually fought his cancer one on one UFC style and beat the s**t out of it


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22 Jul 2012, 3:21 pm

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012 ... e-capriles

He seems to be doing okay.

Those of you who pray: please remember him in your prayers.



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22 Jul 2012, 4:46 pm

Chavez' cancer must be doing great! that's why everything regarding it is kept secret. BTW: All that we do know about his treatment is consistent with the worst prognosis.

It would be great he survives though. The death he deserves is killed by his own people (and it is the death he would get if cancer is not the outcome), natural disease would be too kind.

That's the way he is governing. Playing tricks, being a tyrant. Using trap after trap and foul game to stay in charge. Using constitution as toilet paper, even when he is the one who wrote it. Presidents like that either die or stay in office.


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22 Jul 2012, 4:48 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
It would be great he survives though. The death he deserves is killed by his own people, natural disease would be too kind.


He's not even doing that badly in terms of popularity. It's hardly realistic that he'd be killed by his own people.
What I do think is that he has cancer, and is only surviving from day to day because of treatments in friendly and isolated Cuba.



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22 Jul 2012, 4:51 pm

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He's not even doing that badly in terms of popularity.
Things change.Anyway, these big popularity margins are artificial and will collapse the second he runs out of money to push demagogic stuff and buy rioters.

The great thing about presidents getting killed is that you don't need majority. You only need a couple of hundred people desperate after all the abuses. And Chavez is great at creating enemies for himself


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22 Jul 2012, 4:54 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
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He's not even doing that badly in terms of popularity.
Things change.

The great thing about presidents getting killed is that you don't need majority. You only need a couple of hundred people desperate after all the abuses. And Chavez is great at creating himself enemies.

You don't even need that many - just one, really.



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22 Jul 2012, 5:00 pm

But he's made it to 57 so far, and it looks like his cause of death will be cancer after more than thirteen years in power.