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19 Aug 2012, 9:38 pm

Aggressive people, specifically. They do it for animals, apparently - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_eut ... euthanasia - why the hypocritical double standards? A human could go on to cause far more disruption when aggressive than most other animals.



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19 Aug 2012, 10:26 pm

Its called the death sentence when dealing with humans.



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19 Aug 2012, 10:39 pm

Define aggressive. If anyone shows anger in any way that doesn't involve murdering others, are they deemed "aggressive" and thus in need of being "euthanized?" If someone bites, kicks, or punches someone else for any reason, do they need to be "put down?" You need to put a clear definition on what you mean by aggressive.



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19 Aug 2012, 10:40 pm

I'm against euthanasia and assisted suicide.


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19 Aug 2012, 11:37 pm

I think this thread should be in PPR.


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20 Aug 2012, 1:40 am

It's about assisted suicide ie consensual death.



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20 Aug 2012, 1:58 am

i'm against capital punishment but i'm in favor of voluntary capital punishment done humanely, in addition to euthanasia/assisted suicide.



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20 Aug 2012, 2:12 am

I believe in no capital punishment whether voluntary or involuntary. Who knows whether a victim's family paid them off to just die.



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20 Aug 2012, 2:13 am

If someone woud prefer to die, than to go through severe pain for the remainder of their lives, then why not? I couldn't help someone do it, as then I could be charged with murder or something, but still, I'm all for it.



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20 Aug 2012, 3:43 am

(Thread moved from Random to PPR)



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20 Aug 2012, 4:56 am

thewrll wrote:
I believe in no capital punishment whether voluntary or involuntary. Who knows whether a victim's family paid them off to just die.


and how would that actually work?

unæless the person in question have children or loved ones that are paid, if alone i dont see how anyone could pay that person to kill themselves the money would be absolutely meaningless in every sense of the word.


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20 Aug 2012, 9:47 am

Lack of homes is a BS reason.........its like euthenizing poor parentless children who aren't adopted within a certain time frame, I suppose people might oppose that though. To me its the same thing though.

As for the thread topic....how would it be determined that someone is too aggressive and should be euthenized?


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20 Aug 2012, 10:29 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I'm against euthanasia and assisted suicide.


Why? Do you think a person who is suffering should be forced to live and suffer instead of just ending their life when they want to? If a person is suffering and wants to die to end their suffering but are incapable of doing it themselves, does that mean they should just keep suffering?

Mootoo wrote:
Aggressive people, specifically. They do it for animals, apparently - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_eut ... euthanasia - why the hypocritical double standards? A human could go on to cause far more disruption when aggressive than most other animals.


It all depends on why a person is aggressive or violent that determines if they are dangerous. Sometimes people are dangerous because of reasons they can't control, for instance disorders that cause them to be violent or dangerous. Sometimes even the most violent of criminals had no control over their actions, depending on what disorders they may or may not have had. If it is possible to treat the disorders that make criminals dangerous then they should be treated and then released but kept under observation for a while to make sure they are cured. If treatment is not possible, then there really isn't any point in keeping them alive because they would just take up jail space and they couldn't ever be released.



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20 Aug 2012, 11:28 am

If I never found out that I had AS and was about to live without finding out or people telling me (which can easily be the case). And if I got injured or something which would limit my options in life, I would've liked to perform euthanasia. At least have the option there. And if people have the somewhat same kind of situation they should get the same option.



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20 Aug 2012, 11:33 am

Why not?

Because legal systems the world over recognize that individual human beings have a right to life. It is certainly open to legal systems to attempt to punish "aggressiveness" by capital penalties, but the reality is that even in states that practice capital punishment, there is no appetite to move in such a retrograde direction.

Animals, on the other hand, do not have legally recognized rights. We punish animal cruelty not because animals have a legal right to be free from cruel behaviour, but rather because it is a behaviour that we have seen fit to constrain in other people.


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20 Aug 2012, 7:39 pm

There was a man on the news the other night he was paralysed from the neck down he wants to be allowed to die just seeing him is sad his face was contorted with pain.
If anyone is in that position they shouldn't be allowed to suffer.
In the case of an elderly person you have to be careful that greedy relatives only want the inheritance.