Page 1 of 16 [ 243 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 16  Next

Jitro
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 May 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 589

06 Sep 2012, 10:36 pm

I mean surely if Jesus died for us he would have just committed suicide. No, he was executed.



SavageMessiah
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 16 Aug 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 202
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, US

06 Sep 2012, 11:10 pm

Most of recorded history before A/V is speculative.

And no, nonsense is nonsense; religions in general simply happen to embrace a lot of it.


_________________
AQ: 42
aspie-quiz: 151 / 47


enrico_dandolo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2011
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 866

06 Sep 2012, 11:15 pm

Yes.



zxy8
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 2 Aug 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 484
Location: Perth, Western Australia, Australia

06 Sep 2012, 11:27 pm

All religion is nonsense.



Danimal
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 15 Jun 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Male
Posts: 268
Location: West Central Indiana

07 Sep 2012, 3:48 am

All religions are nonsense, and some of them are bats**t crazy. Mohammed rode a flying horse. Earth is the center of the universe. The book of Mormon was copied from golden plates. Genocide in the name of god is fine. Need I go on?



piroflip
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Aug 2008
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 352

07 Sep 2012, 3:53 am

.

ALL religion is nonesense.

If god made the world why didn't he tell his flock that it was round?

.



Shau
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Oct 2009
Age: 164
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,270

07 Sep 2012, 4:11 am

Most kinds of Buddhism aren't so bad...



Vexcalibur
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,398

07 Sep 2012, 6:08 am

Space zombies?


_________________
.


ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

07 Sep 2012, 7:39 am

Shau wrote:
Most kinds of Buddhism aren't so bad...


And the Amish are a peaceful lot.

ruveyn



The_Walrus
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2010
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,844
Location: London

07 Sep 2012, 11:47 am

Devil's advocate.

Jitro wrote:
I mean surely if Jesus died for us he would have just committed suicide. No, he was executed.

This is Aspie literalism...

Crucifixion is the most painful death, and makes Jesus' sacrifice bigger. Also, it is important that Jesus forgave his executioners.

Jesus dying for our sins in the first place is the weird part though. I mean, how does that even work?
piroflip wrote:
.

ALL religion is nonesense.

If god made the world why didn't he tell his flock that it was round?

.

Why would he say something like that anyway? What use would it be for the first fifty million years of our existence to know that the world was spherical, not flat?

It's only when we've began to explore space that that has become useful.

We have science to help us with simple empirical facts. God would probably have been more concerned with teaching us about morality and other such things, as rationalism is much less precise.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

07 Sep 2012, 11:58 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Why would he say something like that anyway? What use would it be for the first fifty million years of our existence to know that the world was spherical, not flat?


A better question is "why did he not tell this"? Why not give the whole story? 50 million years is also a stupid figure to use, human history is not nearly that long

The_Walrus wrote:
It's only when we've began to explore space that that has become useful.


Seriously? Do you have any idea how important for navigation this knowledge was? Or for understanding that the Earth is the same as that which exists in space, and not some magical flat expanse surrounded by stars and the sun?

The_Walrus wrote:
We have science to help us with simple empirical facts. God would probably have been more concerned with teaching us about morality and other such things, as rationalism is much less precise.


Actually, rationalism is a better foundation for morality than what some "deity" (aka high priests high on something) would say. Furthermore Abraham's God being considered a source of moral teaching is extremely hilarious. Frankly this "god" taught nothing of value, and is actually profoundly evil


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


unduki
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Oct 2011
Age: 65
Gender: Female
Posts: 652

07 Sep 2012, 11:59 am

Jesus is love. All you need is love.


_________________
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass; it's about learning to dance in the rain.


Last edited by unduki on 07 Sep 2012, 3:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Oodain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jan 2011
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,022
Location: in my own little tamarillo jungle,

07 Sep 2012, 12:04 pm

unduki wrote:
Christianity is not nonsense to Christians. Nonsense would be this question.


or the above utterance

its ture that nonsense can be subjective but there is also an objective reality, in that reality some things can easily be deemed nonsense, religions havent so far but anyone with half a brain should at least realize that any literal reading is ridicoulous beyond belief(not really though since people believe it)


_________________
//through chaos comes complexity//

the scent of the tamarillo is pungent and powerfull,
woe be to the nose who nears it.


unduki
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Oct 2011
Age: 65
Gender: Female
Posts: 652

07 Sep 2012, 12:04 pm

piroflip wrote:
.

ALL religion is nonesense.

If god made the world why didn't he tell his flock that it was round?

.


He did. Isaiah 40:22 tells us the Earth is a sphere. The reason people thought the Earth was flat was because no one but the priests were allowed to read the Bible until King James, and even then people generally couldn't read. For whatever reasons, the priests of the time chose to keep the Earth's shape a secret from the general population. Columbus didn't discover anything. He knew before he left that the Earth was a sphere.

Have you read the Bible?


_________________
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass; it's about learning to dance in the rain.


Tequila
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,897
Location: Lancashire, UK

07 Sep 2012, 12:05 pm

unduki wrote:
Christianity is not nonsense to Christians. Nonsense would be this question.


So then, were you put on the cross last Friday, died and magically come back to life this last Sunday? Strange how this happens to so few people, and there is no documentary evidence.

I think it was someone's idea of a good story that was taken too far.



unduki
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Oct 2011
Age: 65
Gender: Female
Posts: 652

07 Sep 2012, 12:08 pm

Jesus is love. All you need is love.


_________________
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass; it's about learning to dance in the rain.


Last edited by unduki on 07 Sep 2012, 3:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.