Wouldn't Libertarians and Unions make a great couple?

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zacb
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14 Dec 2012, 10:10 pm

Think about it.

-The Dems have stood by as right to work has been pushed through

-Libertarians could talk about how both the Repubs and Dems have put the squeeze on the average person through monetary debasement, right to work, and through "free" (actually managed trade) trade, which is subsidized; how Monsanto and others have scewed over American families, along with other coroporations, among others.

-Since free trade is not a bad word anymore, libertarians can actually differentiate the difference between good and bad trade.

-They can distinguish themselves by actually pushing for anti- right to work laws.

-I think they just might need a good speaker to get the message out.

What do you think? Totally out there?



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15 Dec 2012, 10:14 am

zacb wrote:

What do you think? Totally out there?


No libertarian is going to go along with compulsory union membership.

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15 Dec 2012, 10:16 am

But if they start to use their ideology for labor then how can they continue to get supported by big business?



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15 Dec 2012, 10:21 am

DancingDanny wrote:
But if they start to use their ideology for labor then how can they continue to get supported by big business?


Libertarians are less interested in Big Business than they are in their own liberty.

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15 Dec 2012, 10:38 am

I was thinking about the Libertarian party.



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15 Dec 2012, 10:40 am

DancingDanny wrote:
I was thinking about the Libertarian party.


They are only a small percent of the libertarians (note the lower case "l" here). Nor are they representative of all libertarian sentiment. The libertarians I know care more about the liberty of all the citizens and the over size of government much more than they care about the Crony Capitalists.

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15 Dec 2012, 1:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
zacb wrote:

What do you think? Totally out there?


No libertarian is going to go along with compulsory union membership.

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It's not compulsory you silly fascist. You're free to take a job elsewhere. What business is it of government to tell private associations of individuals what kinds of voluntary contracts they can or cannot make? If you don't want to join a union are you willing to take a lower wage and less benefits than paying members for the exact same job?



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15 Dec 2012, 1:26 pm

DancingDanny wrote:
But if they start to use their ideology for labor then how can they continue to get supported by big business?

They won't, which is why they don't.

If libertarians are going to support free trade they should also support wide open national borders. That way third world sweatshop workers are free to flood the west demanding western wages. Why should workers be restricted in where they are allowed to move to sell their labor while capital owners are free to move production wherever they can find the cheapest captive labor? Lefties will say capitalists are "exploiting" third world workers (even though what the capitalists are paying them allows them to live better than if they were forced to return to earning a living through farming the land), libertarians will more accurately say that state restrictions on immigration are responsible for creating a market inefficiency.