30 Dec 2012, 3:15 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty
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Homosexual pederasty has been deemed beneficial by ancient philosophers, Japanese samurai, and modern writers such as Oscar Wilde. In many societies, it was justified on the grounds that love was the best foundation for teaching courage as well as civic and cultural values, and that man–boy relations were superior to relations with a woman....
In antiquity, pederasty was seen as an educational institution for the inculcation of moral and cultural values, as well as a form of sexual expression, entered history from the Archaic period onwards in Ancient Greece, though Cretan ritual objects reflecting an already formalized practice date to the late Minoan civilization, around 1650 BC. According to Plato,in ancient Greece, pederasty was a relationship and bond – whether sexual or chaste – between an adolescent boy and an adult man outside of his immediate family. While most Greek men engaged in relations with both women and boys, exceptions to the rule were known, some avoiding relations with women, and others rejecting relations with boys...
Plato was an early critic of sexual intercourse in pederastic relationships, proposing that men's love of boys avoid all carnal expression and instead progress from admiration of the lover's specific virtues to love of virtue itself in abstract form. While copulation with boys was often criticized and seen as shameful and brutish, other aspects of the relationship were considered beneficial, as indicated in proverbs such as A lover is the best friend a boy will ever have. The pederastic relationship had to be approved by the boy's father. Boys entered into such relationships in their teens, around the same age that Greek girls were given in marriage. The mentor was expected to teach the young man or to see to his education, and to give him certain appropriate ceremonial gifts....
Pederasty was notable in Moorish Spain, and Tuscany and northern Italy during the Renaissance, and also medieval and Tsarist Russia. Elsewhere, it was practiced in pre-Modern Japan until the Meiji restoration....
Until the 1970s, English "public schools" were walled boarding schools, educating adolescent boys only, with a strong concentration on Greek and Latin classics. They continued to be “hotbeds of pederasty” into the twentieth century. C. S. Lewis when talking about his life at Malvern College, an English public school, acknowledged that pederasty "was the only counterpoise to the social struggle; the one oasis (though green only with weeds and moist only with foetid water) in the burning desert of competitive ambition." Eventually, pederasty was rooted out of British public schools, due to the introduction of female teachers and co-education, which gave boys a heterosexual output, and child abuse was no longer hushed up due to society's concerns with protecting children. Parents had more control over who had responsibility for the children, and men with pederastic tendencies are barred from teaching jobs.
In antiquity, pederasty was seen as an educational institution for the inculcation of moral and cultural values, as well as a form of sexual expression, entered history from the Archaic period onwards in Ancient Greece, though Cretan ritual objects reflecting an already formalized practice date to the late Minoan civilization, around 1650 BC. According to Plato,in ancient Greece, pederasty was a relationship and bond – whether sexual or chaste – between an adolescent boy and an adult man outside of his immediate family. While most Greek men engaged in relations with both women and boys, exceptions to the rule were known, some avoiding relations with women, and others rejecting relations with boys...
Plato was an early critic of sexual intercourse in pederastic relationships, proposing that men's love of boys avoid all carnal expression and instead progress from admiration of the lover's specific virtues to love of virtue itself in abstract form. While copulation with boys was often criticized and seen as shameful and brutish, other aspects of the relationship were considered beneficial, as indicated in proverbs such as A lover is the best friend a boy will ever have. The pederastic relationship had to be approved by the boy's father. Boys entered into such relationships in their teens, around the same age that Greek girls were given in marriage. The mentor was expected to teach the young man or to see to his education, and to give him certain appropriate ceremonial gifts....
Pederasty was notable in Moorish Spain, and Tuscany and northern Italy during the Renaissance, and also medieval and Tsarist Russia. Elsewhere, it was practiced in pre-Modern Japan until the Meiji restoration....
Until the 1970s, English "public schools" were walled boarding schools, educating adolescent boys only, with a strong concentration on Greek and Latin classics. They continued to be “hotbeds of pederasty” into the twentieth century. C. S. Lewis when talking about his life at Malvern College, an English public school, acknowledged that pederasty "was the only counterpoise to the social struggle; the one oasis (though green only with weeds and moist only with foetid water) in the burning desert of competitive ambition." Eventually, pederasty was rooted out of British public schools, due to the introduction of female teachers and co-education, which gave boys a heterosexual output, and child abuse was no longer hushed up due to society's concerns with protecting children. Parents had more control over who had responsibility for the children, and men with pederastic tendencies are barred from teaching jobs.
Modern Feminists and others would probably describe such relations--where the older partner is in a position of educational, religious, economic, or other form of institutional authority over the younger partner--as an abuse of power.
Even back in the 1990s, guys like Robert Bly
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3HWLIL1Aw[/youtube]
used to wax nostalgic about a time when boys would become men through the guidance of a male mentor, which is something that is now largely absent from our culture.
Older women, or "cougars", can also be quite useful in the instruction and guidance of young men.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE9TVcBe6jI[/youtube]
In fact, Benjamin Franklin advises that a young man seek an older woman for a mistress, and describes many of the advantages over a younger woman:
http://grammar.about.com/od/classicessa ... linmis.htm
Many female high school teachers have offered hands-on sexual education to their male pupils, and it unfortunately often ended badly for the teacher, with her being required to languish in prison for years on end.
And, many older men have chosen much younger wives, for example
One attraction of an old person for a young spouse: if the old person has a pension with survivor benefits that include health insurance: that can make marriage to a senior citizen more attractive, and something that a younger mate wouldn't be able to offer.
There don't seem to be a whole lot of younger men marrying elderly woman, although the supply of available elderly women is clearly there. Katy Couric apparently played the cougar with a much younger man for many years, but they split up.
So, what is your opinion on intergenerational romance/relationships?
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01 Jan 2013, 11:23 am
Old Hugh Hefner has finally settled down.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/hugh-hefner-m ... eekly.html
He is 86, and she is 60 years younger.
No wonder women under 30 are so cocky. Men of all ages, shapes and sizes crave them, and the ladies can pick and choose.
Maybe he'll dump her when she turns 30 and the first wrinkles start to appear under her eyes.
01 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm
01 Jan 2013, 12:47 pm
ArrantPariah wrote:
Old Hugh Hefner has finally settled down.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/hugh-hefner-m ... eekly.html
He is 86, and she is 60 years younger.
No wonder women under 30 are so cocky. Men of all ages, shapes and sizes crave them, and the ladies can pick and choose.
Maybe he'll dump her when she turns 30 and the first wrinkles start to appear under her eyes.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/hugh-hefner-m ... eekly.html
He is 86, and she is 60 years younger.
No wonder women under 30 are so cocky. Men of all ages, shapes and sizes crave them, and the ladies can pick and choose.
Maybe he'll dump her when she turns 30 and the first wrinkles start to appear under her eyes.
I wonder if yon man can still get it up? I suppose he has a decent model to practice on...
01 Jan 2013, 12:55 pm
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