autism is why it's impossible to believe in God

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Now I don't call myself an atheist per se. But as much bad things there are in the world, I can understand God's intention for a majority of them if there is one. Let's look at cancer for example, a terrible thing to have but if there was a God, it could be his means about teaching people the value of life and living for each day, especially if the cancer was inflicted on a child.

But for me, Autism is something that is hard to fathom why any God would create, especially the Christian God. Why would a God who is constantly using his followers to preach to everyone and get them to convert to his following create a neurological disorder that would make such a task completely impossible for one who has it? Why create a person and make them unable to do what you would want them to do on earth (which is to speak to people and preach the word of God to them)? And for what purpose would Autism in the human world help to serve God...especially since Autism thinking often consists of logic, rationality, and skepticism which is often highly discouraged when it comes to various religions? What point would God create by making Autism at all?

I know some preachers would say that autism is just a demon possession thing but I disagree with the idea for obvious reasons. The way I see it, if God exists then he is responsible for creating all the mental and neurological disorders that would inflict a human being or be given to one upon birth. Demon possession cannot serve as explanation any diagnostic conditions.

Clarify whether you're referring to the autistic spectrum in general or classic autism in particular? If it's the former, I've got some arguments for you. If it's the latter, I won't presume to have any sure idea of what I'm saying. Gotta be someone else here who can tackle that.

I really have no idea.

As far as trying to blame demons though; that tends to come from a frightfully comic-book and charactatured sense of what's happening around us, a state that we've had in organized religion for quite a while.

My own frustrations though echo what you've mentioned - ie. it makes it significantly harder to 'serve' in any traditional sense. That and, growing old single, not having most of the conventional issues, and also being without wife and kids - that also lights a fire under my arse to get into all kinds of real trouble; ie. partying, drugs, mystery religions, almost anything a person with ambition might seek out simply because they feel so much pressure to try and make something of their lives.

As far as some of the stuff I've been reading though which draws a clearer sense of the cosmology for the battle between God and the fallen angels it does seem like there's hardly a factor not included in one way or another, and quite often with dual purpose.

My guess, and something again incredibly frustrating to a proactive person - is that yes, part of my ASD is to frustrate me into giving up God, on the other side part of it is God's creation of perfect strength in weakness, as in it kept me from getting corralled into all kinds of social ills at a younger age that I might not have found my way out of. Even these concepts though seem shoddy so I have to suppose I really won't get it until I understand in full detail how the battle was going on here, in my late 1979 and onward slice of history.

As to why God gave some of us Autism, we may never really know for sure, (Though I believe my autism basically saved me from acting like my peers, because I don't see reason to do those things.) I still hold trust to him to him to help me through these last days. (That, and after discovering a Christian website that explained the prophetic books of Daniel and Revelations, my faith basically became sturdy.)

I'm autistic, and I fancy myself a believer.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Pretty sure the existence or non-existence of entities which could be ascribed the qualities normally attributed to deities is totally-irrelevant to Earth, human affairs, and perhaps this dimension and universe altogether, though if they have feelings, and those include something akin to amusement, they might have a chuckle at the vast delusions of importance of our species.

If you wish to know about God, or at least want to blame him for things, best to read the Bible first.
In it, you will discover that God doesnt rule this world, Satan does, Mankind rejected Gods sovereignty over us back in the garden of Eden.
That is why in the Lords prayer we say, "Let thy Kingdom come, Let thy will be done"
Think logically, we wouldn't pray for Gods rulership or Kingdom to come if it was already here.

Likewise, blaming God for the likes of Autism, where did you learn God created Autism?

Gods act of creation ended with the creation of Eve, and she certainly didnt have autism, truth is, just like a car, the longer a creation goes without a service from the manufacturer, the more things are going to go wrong with it.

More chance Autism comes from mans less perfect creations such as vaccines than any wickedness on Gods part.

I'm not sure about purposes or the lack of them, but I'm pretty convinced that aspies and other autistics are ideal advocates of animals.

There is something that western culture forgot about the subject of God and 'Gods' for a long time.

That being, God is fabricated by man.

I do not make that statement as most people would make it, I am not trying to put down 'God' or Christianity.

I say that statement from a Shamanistic perspective.

If you trace back any spiritual or religious tradition, it eventually goes back to some shamanistic root. Shamanism was the first and primal birthing grounds of anything 'spiritual' or dealing with 'souls' and 'Gods'.

From shamanistic perspective, Gods are created by shamans. What a God is, it's sort of a unconscious neurological brain program people run.

Someone, long ago, with a deep shamanic understanding, created the Christian God, and installed it in many peoples brains. This became peoples reality for years and years, people believing the Christian God 'just is', Christianity lost touch with it's shamanic origins, and it lost all remnants of shamanic knowledge of these subjects. So people forgot, they forgot what a God is, that it's a brain program made by man.

Now many westerners are sort of wakening from this and realize "God isn't real!" like it's some great realization and discovery. Which from a Shamans perspective, the response would be "yes we know, welcome back to what humanity knew thousands of years ago".

Man fabricates Gods as a way to run unconscious thought cycles in their brain. In much the same way a programmer will create a program to run as a background task on your computer, doing things in the background, without your awareness. This is why shamans would create gods, they would create deities, they would then worship and run rituals around these deities. The purpose being to ingrain them in their subconscious mind on the understanding that integrating certain programs (Gods) deep in their brain, will result in alterations to their unconscious mind.

The idea behind this is, you can craft a certain deity, a certain visual form, a certain set of constructs attached to that form, a certain personality and anthropomorphization of that form. You can design these qualities of this 'thing', whatever it is, a Deity God-Form in this case, you can design it to have specific qualities that once installed in the unconscious mind, it will produce certain results. Then through worship, ritual, repetition of stories, this form will ingrain itself in the unconscious mind, rewire the unconscious mind, and then make a persons brain, completely outside of their conscious control, begin to produce the resultant desired effects or changes which that God-Form was designed to produce.

Shamans would craft God-Forms, or spirits or guides for all different purposes. The bonding of a shaman to a 'animal spirit' was done for this purpose. For example, take a coyote, anthropormophize it, attach all these attributes to it like aggressiveness, fearlessness, perseverance to survive, give it a unique and immediately identifiable visual form. Then worship it, ritualize it, chanting about it. Then all of a sudden you have forced into your unconscious mind those qualities which you attached to that coyote god-form and outside of your conscious mind, those qualities will then permeate through your mind.

The modern world of psychiatry has come up with a technique called NLP or 'neuro-linguistic programming', which is essentially a rediscovery and re-application of these shamanic techniques of changing the unconscious mind. Just instead of doing it through deity forms, NLP does it purely through words. The resulting effect and basic technique however is of the same nature of what shamans would do with god creation.

However, there is much to be said on the idea of, how much more effectively could you re-arrange and change around your unconcious mind if, instead of using just words as NLP does, you instead used visuals, sounds, smells, dance, anthropomorphized ideals, or other? Think about it, the truth is, much much more so. Incorporating more sensory stimuli and more extravagant symbolism can entail someone to create much more complex brain programs for the unconscious mind. This is why Gods came to exist in humanity.

If you understand all I've said thus far, then I think you should understand. The Christian God brain program has not been updated in thousands of years. It is out of date, it is showing it's age, this is why it's failing to hold it's power on people and why many people are uninstalling it.

A 'God' is not about believing in or not believing in it. A God is about decisively identifying what components, when placed in the autonomous unconscious mind, will produce a more affluent existence for you. Then creating a form, however you choose to do so, and then placing that form in your unconscious mind.

The Christian God program, as it has survived today, was designed more around the functions of allowing a King to retain control over people more easily in medieval cultural setups.

The world has changed, many many new variables have been introduced, these brain programs must be updated to take these things into account.

As an autistic, I can consider communism far more easily than most religious people. Since people are made in the image of God. God therefore is the collective consciousness and wisdom of an infinite amount of people.

Most people look to the individual to find God. They look for someone based on individual accomplishments and achievements.

That miscalculation seems to come from a supremacy of his belief in free will and letting things both do as they please and reap the consequences both good and bad. Free will, at least for me, is an incredibly difficult concept to understand though as I've mentioned before, the only possibility being that the fusion of all time and space to make both time and space illusion and thus cause and effect linear illusions is the closest I can come, ie. rather than that offering an understandable mechanism for free will it just undermines Newtonian objections.