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07 Feb 2013, 2:59 pm

LA Times Report
Yahoo News...yeah i know yahoo.
NBC news
Fox News Cause i know some people don't like the above links.
PDF of the Ex-LAPD "Manifesto"

Seems the LAPD have been Shooting Everything on sight regardless of civilian safety. I'd hate to own a truck in Los Angeles



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07 Feb 2013, 3:21 pm

And they wonder why the people of LA, as a whole, do not trust them and are generally unwilling to cooperate with them. I don't fear the gangs around here, I don't fear the random opportunistic criminals, I do fear the police.



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07 Feb 2013, 3:35 pm

probably need to reign in on the whole force and figure out what is really going on in there.



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07 Feb 2013, 5:06 pm

Ex-officer goes insane. Bad stuff like that sadly happens.

Police officers shoot up innocents because they might be insane ex-officer. That stuff...sadly happens.



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07 Feb 2013, 5:56 pm

Apparently he's a big fan of Obama, Piers Morgan, and gun control.

Domestic terrorist?



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07 Feb 2013, 7:39 pm

Ramba_Ral wrote:
LA Times Report
Yahoo News...yeah i know yahoo.
NBC news
Fox News Cause i know some people don't like the above links.
PDF of the Ex-LAPD "Manifesto"

Seems the LAPD have been Shooting Everything on sight regardless of civilian safety. I'd hate to own a truck in Los Angeles


On some level its understandable for the officers to be a bit hair-triggered right now, after this guy shot 3 police offers in two separate incidents (and apparently two of those were ambushed with no warning). I don't condone what they did or try to excuse it, but its at least plausible why they'd be more likely to make a mistake under these circumstances.

A lesson that ought to be taken away from this is that even trained police officers can make mistakes. I hope the NRA and others take that into account before they turn our schools and other public places into armed camps with untrained or minimally people entering into stressful situations and shooting at everything in sight.



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07 Feb 2013, 7:44 pm

I wish I could say the accusations in his manifesto surprise me, but this type of behavior is still out of control underneath a facade of political correctness. I'm not sure what's up with his plan to fix it though. :?


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07 Feb 2013, 8:20 pm

Just read his manifesto. The officer he reported for excessive force (which he believes is the reason he got fired) works out of Harbor Division, the station closest to where I live, and is well known around here for that sort of thing.

Hell, I've tried to file complaints against officers out of Harbor Division before, and seen firsthand how seriously they don't take it.

Both his actions, and those of the police trying to apprehend him, only further the impression I (and most others around here) have of police officers as thugs who only joined the force for the opportunity to commit violence.



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08 Feb 2013, 1:54 am

I blame the Felony Murder rule for all those police shootings because any deaths caused by the shootings will be charged to the target of their search. This means that the police can endanger the public and know that the person they're hunting will be blamed in the event that people die as a result of the endangerment.



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08 Feb 2013, 2:44 am

I'm guessing he'll go after his targets -- taking as long as it takes to get it done, then he'll pop his top or turn himself in (unless stopped); any police could be a target of opportunity if it looks like he'd get away with it

or,

he'll do something terrible (I mean, more terrible), like murdering a mall full of innocents then going at it with the police till they put him down



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09 Feb 2013, 8:15 pm

UPDATE: if you're still tracking the story, there was a person in custody in a San Diego Mall. That person turns out to NOT be Dorner. He is still at large.

And remember how the LAPD was involved in racial profiling? Now they shoot up anything that looks like a Nissan Truck.


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09 Feb 2013, 8:52 pm

The longer he holds out, the more of a folk hero he becomes...



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09 Feb 2013, 8:52 pm

Dillogic wrote:
I'm guessing he'll go after his targets -- taking as long as it takes to get it done, then he'll pop his top or turn himself in (unless stopped); any police could be a target of opportunity if it looks like he'd get away with it

or,

he'll do something terrible (I mean, more terrible), like murdering a mall full of innocents then going at it with the police till they put him down

He'll probably freeze. He left too much gear behind.


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09 Feb 2013, 9:09 pm

Wonder if he even is still in the mountains or if his burning truck was a diversion. He could be a 1000 miles away and they'll be searching those mountains for weeks. Either that or he blew his head off and is buried under a couple feet of snow.



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09 Feb 2013, 9:20 pm

Shows how a single person can really mess with a state.

If he was prepared, he's probably in a bunker somewhere (nowhere near where they're searching); to protect him from thermal viewers, and with plenty of consumables. (The car burning probably had an incendiary device with a long delay fuse to throw off his trail -- same with the dumping of his ID at an airport. I bet the boat "highjacking" was a ruse too.)

Then he comes out again when it dies down and takes out a few more targets, and goes back to hiding (possibly having several bunkers).

If he's smart (he at least seems smart, or lucky), he could do this for a very long time.



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09 Feb 2013, 9:35 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Wonder if he even is still in the mountains or if his burning truck was a diversion. He could be a 1000 miles away and they'll be searching those mountains for weeks. Either that or he blew his head off and is buried under a couple feet of snow.

He would have needed to stage additional vehicles to get away. His burnt truck is out on a remote fire access road. No motorcycle tracks are known to have been found before the snow fell. Without a means of escape, holding out will be hard.


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