40 Reasons to Support Gun Control

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1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns.
2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.
3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."
4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.
5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.
6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.
7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense --give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).
10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.
11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for spinal paralysis, a computer programmer for Y2K problems, and Sarah Brady [or Sheena Duncan, Adele Kirsten, Peter Storey, etc.] for firearms expertise.
12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created by an act of Congress in 1917.
13. The National Guard, funded by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a state militia.
14. These phrases," right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumeration's herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people," all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.
15. We don't need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, but we should ban and seize all guns, thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments to that Constitution.
16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense, which is why the army has millions of them.
17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they serve no military purpose, and private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles," because they are military weapons.
18. The ready availability of guns today, with waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., is responsible for recent school shootings,compared to the lack of school shootings in the 40's, 50's and 60's, which resulted from the availability of guns at hardware stores, surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, mail order, etc., etc.
19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, and the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.
20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.
21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.
22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."
23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.
25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.
26. A self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."
27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.
28. The right of online pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.
29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.
30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.
31. Charlton Heston as president of the NRA is a shill who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.
32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.
33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.
34. Police officers, who qualify with their duty weapons once or twice a year, have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.
35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.
36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.
37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people, which is why the police need them but "civilians" do not.
38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.
39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.
40. When Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands," they don't mean you.

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or just one reason...

1. "bowling for columbine"

What about it?

the harder the government tries to get our guns away from us, the more strongly I feel that we'd better hang on to them.

I 100% agree. The gun control people tell us that we don't have to worry about the government taking away our constitutional rights, right when the government is taking away our constitutional rights (q.v. #15)!

I am totally in favour of hunting rifles and deer shotguns...

If there was a rabid coyote threatening my cats... I'd throw my ecological pretensions out the window...

That said I prefer reasonable solutions to social problems...

I grew up with farmers and hunters...

Believe me... you need guns given the prevalence of rabies...

Still; I'm a bit skeptical of guns in urban areas... very little chance of being attacked by a hungry bear in a ghetto...

If nobody in urban areas had guns... nobody would need any; like Britain...

I've just returned from a trip to the outback, where there are many people who hunt for food and many feral animals that damage the environment, and I think that in that setting, guns are useful and important tools.
In an urban setting... are you kidding?

I wish. The difference in Britain is that only the thugs have guns, and some urban areas have a growing problem with gun related crime, and the police in many counties have armed response units. That said much gun crime here is related to gang violence or robberies, and reassuringly you are far more likely to be stabbed or beaten to death in Britain than shot.

At least the 'wannabes' here don't have easy access to firearms, which has to be a plus for gun control. The last thing we need is to arm the plague of little idiots who think they're hard, so they can actually shoot at you instead of making empty threats.

Dunc

i find this whole thread very disturbing. i plead with people to listen to both sides of the arguments before coming down on one side or the other. and from a variety of sources - as usual, the big bucks are on the side of the big bucks, and so the pro gun lobby can afford to be more eloquent.

Gun control aside, I have to wonder why it is that the U.S. has a muder rate that is so significantly higher than any other developed nation. This seems to apply to both developed nations with strict and lax gun control. I mean, do we have a culture that condones murder or something?

The main problem with the gun control is that it tries to restrict freedom.

Last edited by cornince on 20 Feb 2005, 11:42 am, edited 1 time in total.

That is interesting. But I heard that some countries in Europe and Japan are starting to have increasing rates, while the American rate is starting to decline. This has been happening in the past decade. I'm trying to find the sources on that.

The rate today is nowhere near where it was in the early 1990s. The early 1990s were crazy, wacko times. You had all those devolutionary groups going, you had Ruby Ridge, you had Waco, you had the L.A. riots, etc. This all seemed to cool down ca. 1995, when it was becoming time to make some money. That was when the tech boom and the Internet were starting.

i get so angry when this is quoted - sorry, cornince, not at you - but at the number of times this completely and utterly duplictous, lying, deceitful, IMMORAL, fallacy is dragged out and paraded as a noble, constitutional right. what a load of crap! and how illogical - where's the freedom is having to HAVE a gun to protect yourself? and, while i'm at it, it's no good making guns illegal either - that just means the only guns are in the hands of criminals.

sort out the disease, not the symptoms. i'm not a bleeding heart liberal. i'm just fed up with the culture of fear that means everyone's dragged down with the fat cats, and have to play by their rules, in their game, in order to protect their power and monetary interests. i refuse to play by those rules. and i don't accept excuses of "i didn't know". the world is everyone's responsibility

yeah the freedom to shoot people. some freedoms have to be restricted like the freedom to rape for example

No, it's not the freedom to shoot people. It's the freedom to have a gun in your possession, to be used if necessary. If you don't go around shooting people with it or threatening people, really it's no-one else's business if you have it or not. I own guns; am I interfering with your rights somehow?