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06 Feb 2013, 5:57 pm

http://rt.com/news/gangnam-style-gaza-blockade-572/

Gangnam Gaza Style: Palestinians remake viral video to showcase hardships



Published: 06 February, 2013, 18:16





A mobile phone, a sense of humor and an internet connection were all a group of Palestinians needed to illustrate the hardships they face every day. The men made a parody of the South Korean hit ‘Gangnam Style’, naming it ‘Gangnam Gaza Style.’

The entertaining video shows five adult Palestinians and one child dancing in identical outfits. But it’s not all fun and games – because in between the dance moves, the men showcase the troubles of the region.

A handwritten sign taped to one of the singer’s backs has the word ‘unemployment’ spelled out in English and Arabic.


Later on, the group’s car runs out of gas, causing them to push it – while walking backwards and continuing their ‘Gangnam Style’ dance.


They arrive at a service station, only to realize that a sign stating ‘no fuel’ is covering the gas pump.


After realizing no gasoline is available, the men are forced to ride donkeys as their mode of transport.


“The message is about our suffering, prisoners, unemployment, and lack of electricity that causes us problems,” group member Walid Afaghani told Reuters.

The United Nations estimates that Gaza unemployment is currently at more than 40 per cent, while local economists put the figure at around 60 per cent.


An image grab taken from a video uploaded on YouTube by user Mahmoud Medo

Relaying such a hefty message to the world was surprisingly easy for the young men – the video was filmed entirely on a mobile phone, and no fancy editing or directing was used during production.

“Our instruments are simple ones…thank God we can send a message to the world through our mobile phones,” group leader Muhamnad Barakat said.

The conditions are a result of the Israel’s blockade on Gaza. Tel Aviv imposed restrictions on trade to Gaza in 2001 following a Palestinian uprising and tightened them once again in 2007 after Hamas seized power in the coastal enclave adjacent to Egypt.


The Palestinian Authority – especially the Gaza Strip – is facing a severe financial crisis. It relies heavily on money from donor countries to stay afloat. However, it is deeply in debt to banks and the private sector.


“The Palestinian Authority is in deep financial trouble and the economy has been taking a nosedive in recent years because of the lack of a clear economic policy and the restriction imposed by Israel on Palestinian imports and exports,” Economist Mohsen Abu Ramadan told Press TV.


The video’s soundtrack is a cover of Psy's ‘Gangnam Style,’ which was the most Googled term of 2012 and became the first online video to reach 1 billion hits on the internet. The song mocks Seoul’s Gangnam District, whose residents have a reputation for being upper-class and pretentious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7PN9fn9PQ[/youtube]


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06 Feb 2013, 6:37 pm

Can't say I have any sympathy for their self-inflicted 'hardships'. It's entirely their own fault that they are in the situation that they're in. Bombing your neighbours, swearing to wipe their country (and the people in it) from the map and depicting its inhabitants - all of them - as animals in the name of a religion and calling to kill every last Jew in the world won't make your Jewish neighbours very sympathetic to you.

Frankly, a lot of other governments would have turned Gaza into nothing by now.



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06 Feb 2013, 6:42 pm

...so if Hamas stopped launching rockets altogether then Israel would back off military intervention altogether and allow water and petrol back into gaza, the palestinian economy would recover and everything would be hunky dory?

If you honestly believe that you are more naive than you seem. Likud wants to wipe the Palestinian territories out as much as Hamas wants to wipe out Israel. They just arent so vocal about it.

Hamas represents one extremity of palestinian opinion as much as netanyahu represents one extremity of Israeli thought.

Anyway the reason i posted this was to show not all Palestinians are a bunch of uptight, sharia law loving jerks.


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06 Feb 2013, 6:46 pm

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Frankly, a lot of other governments would have turned Gaza into nothing by now.


yes, but they usually get usurped/overthrown eventually for being the tyrannical bastards that they are.


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06 Feb 2013, 6:47 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Likud wants to wipe the Palestinian territories out as much as Hamas wants to wipe out Israel. They just arent so vocal about it.


Does the Israeli government want to wipe out every last Muslim on Earth?

Can I share a Likud quote with you about negotiation with the Palestinians?

After the election, Binyamin Netanyahu said this about Mahmoud Abbas:

"I call on Abu Mazen [Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas] to come back to the negotiating table," Netanyahu said. "It's a shame, with every day that passes without us talking and trying to find a solution for peace for our two nations."

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...so if Hamas stopped launching rockets altogether then Israel would back off military intervention altogether and allow water and petrol back into gaza?


Hamas needs to completely disappear as much as for the people of Gaza as for anyone else. Their own stated Charter makes this crystal clear that the only way they consider there to be any way forward is a war of annihilation against Israel.

If it did that (and no other terrorist group took its place)? Yes, of course. 100%.

If Hamas called off the war permanently and dedicated itself to peaceful means, it wouldn't be Hamas.



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06 Feb 2013, 6:48 pm

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yes, but they usually get usurped/overthrown eventually for being the tyrannical bastards that they are.


I really don't think that would happen. Who would stop them? Would the Jordanians try to invade again? Any country tried to invade a warlike Russian-style Israel that had annihilated Gazans would have their asses handed to them and probably their own countries invaded and occupied to.



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06 Feb 2013, 6:51 pm

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Hamas needs to completely disappear as much as for the people of Gaza as for anyone else. Their own stated Charter makes this crystal clear that the only way they consider there to be any way forward is a war of annihilation against Israel.

If Hamas called off the war permanently and dedicated itself to peaceful means, it wouldn't be Hamas.


You wont get any argument from me about hamas being a shower of shite, but Israel arent doing an awful lot to convince Palestinians to stop supporting them.


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06 Feb 2013, 6:54 pm

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You wont get any argument from me about hamas being a shower of shite, but Israel arent doing an awful lot to convince Palestinians to stop supporting them.


What can Israel possibly do? There's very little that Israel can do with the religious grip that Hamas have on the people of Gaza. Israel's main objective is its own security. It does the best to look after the people of Gaza, but there is only so much that a population at war with the government of that territory can do. The people of Gaza wouldn't likely listen to the Eternal Evil Jew anyway. Any change in Gaza (and Judea and Samaria) has to come from within.

Have you got any good ideas for Israel to convince Gazans whilst being able to weaken Hamas? You need to think about the extreme amount of religious hatred that these people are brought up with and fed on every hour of every day.



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06 Feb 2013, 6:57 pm

Tequila wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
You wont get any argument from me about hamas being a shower of shite, but Israel arent doing an awful lot to convince Palestinians to stop supporting them.


What can Israel possibly do? There's very little that Israel can do with the religious grip that Hamas have on the people of Gaza. Israel's main objective is its own security. The people of Gaza wouldn't likely listen to the Eternal Evil Jew anyway. Any change in Gaza (and Judea and Samaria) has to come from within.


if israel were clever they would support Hamas's domestic opponents instead of killing Palestinian civillians. They would undermine Hamas's influence without incurring any of the international condemnation or inflamed support for Hamas.

I would love to see a secular (preferably socialist) palestine but this is not going to come about as long as hamas continues to recieve the oxygen of martyrdom.


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06 Feb 2013, 6:58 pm

thomas81 wrote:
if israel were clever they would support Hamas's domestic opponents instead of killing Palestinian civillians.


"Palestinian civilians"?

You mean terrorists, don't you. Most of the people that Israel kills in Gaza are terrorists. Some innocent people do die, but that is usually the fault of Hamas using its own women and children as human shields.



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06 Feb 2013, 7:01 pm

Tequila wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
if israel were clever they would support Hamas's domestic opponents instead of killing Palestinian civillians.


"Palestinian civilians"?

You mean terrorists, don't you. Most of the people that Israel kills in Gaza are terrorists. Some innocent people do die, but that is usually the fault of Hamas using its own women and children as human shields.


No, i mean civillians. I posted several links before regarding israeli attacks on civillians.

Again, Israel is going the wrong way about removing Hamas.

The IRA was at its strongest after killings of nationalists by the british army.


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07 Feb 2013, 12:17 pm

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No, i mean civillians. I posted several links before regarding israeli attacks on civillians.


Post them. Most of the people that Israel kills are either terrorists or people directly disobeying IDF orders at places like checkpoints. I'm perfectly willing to accept that some innocent civilians do end up being killed as a result of Israel attempting to defend itself from rocket attacks, but given the extreme care that Israel takes in avoiding civilian casualties whenever possible, I'm not sure how these could be avoided.

I could tell you a story about a Palestinian shot by the Israelis in the West Bank if you like. What the Palestinians said and what the real story of it actually was (he directly disobeyed orders to freeze, and he was illegally entering Israel).

Also, regarding Israel trying to intervene in politics of Gaza - that's an open opportunity for the people in the region to bring out the classic anti-Semitic trope of the Jews trying to control people's thoughts. I'm sure Israel wants to keep well away from giving these oiks that kind of excuse.



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07 Feb 2013, 12:51 pm

another point about 'human sheilds'. Explain to me how Israel are not equally culpible, by allowing Israeli settlers to live within range of hamas rockets? You are forgetting that Gaza is the most densely populated area on earth. There is no way hamas can initiate any offensive operations without implicating civillian safety. The place is no more than a self governed concentration camp.


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07 Feb 2013, 1:10 pm

thomas81 wrote:
another point about 'human sheilds'. Explain to me how Israel are not equally culpible, by allowing Israeli settlers to live within range of hamas rockets?


Excuse me? So it's Israel's fault for people living in their own country? How would you feel if a supporter of "the cause" told you that you couldn't live in your own country because people were firing rockets at it?

Moral inversion time. Hamas makes the choice to fire rockets at Israel. It's Hamas that turns Gaza into a warzone, not Israel. If you read their endless statements, you'll see their warlike philosophy laid bare.

What, you mean "Israeli settlers" shouldn't live in, oh, Tel Aviv? Hamas rockets have reached there before.

And they're not settlers. Beersheva and all those places are internationally recognised full parts of Israel. There is no dispute about the Negev, it's a full part of Israel and has been since its internationally-recognised founding in 1948. Have you seen what the Negev looks like? Hint: it's a barren desert, a wasteland, a scorchingly hot part of the world. It's only due to Israeli ingenuity that they have been able to make it suitable for mass settlements.

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You are forgetting that Gaza is the most densely populated area on earth.


It's one of the most densely populated territories on Earth (it's about fourth) but it's not anywhere near the most densely populated area on Earth. Look at the likes of Manila in the Philippines.

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There is no way hamas can initiate any offensive operations without implicating civillian safety.


Yes they can, and easily too. They deliberately choose to use women and children as human shields. If you look at Gaza, not all of it is densely populated. It's mainly Gaza City that is densely populated. There is plenty of barren landscape - see the countryside - that they can fire their rockets from and cause no harm to any of their civilians.

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The place is no more than a self governed concentration camp.


It wouldn't be nearly so crowded if Gazans didn't have one of the highest birth rates in the entire world. They are popping out children like there is no tomorrow, which suits Hamas fine as they can use them as pawns in their war of annihilation against Israel.