Look at all the discrimination!

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After reading and posting in the rebel flag thread in this forum and the pc thread in the general forum, I found this list of discrimination topics on Wikipedia. I have a few comments on some of these, but I'll wait and see what other folks say first. This seems a little excessive doesn't it? I agree completely that some of them are terrible and should be eliminated but others seem downright silly and nitpicky and not even in the realm of discrimination but crossing over into preference.

Discrimination

General forms

Ageism
Caste
Clasism
Colorism
Genism
Heightism
Linguism
Lookism
Mentalism
Racism
Rankism
Religionism
Sexism
Sexualism
Sizeism
Weightism

Social

AIDS Stigma
Abeism
Adultism
Anti-albinism
Anti-communism
Anti-homelessness
Anti-intellectualism
Anti-left handedness
Anti-masonry
Antisemitism
Audism
Binarism
Biphobia
Cronyism
Elitism
Ephebiphobia
Ethnocentrism
Fatism
Genderism
Gerontophobia
Handicapism
heternomativity
Heterophobia
Heterosexism
Homonegativity
Homophobia
Leprosy stigma
Lesbophobia
Misandry
Misogyny
Nepotism
Pedophobia
Reverse discrimination
Sectarianism
Shadeism
Surdophobia
Transphobia
Xenophobia

Manifestations of discriminations

Blood libel
Compulsory sterilization
Cultural genocide
Disability hate crime
Economic
Eliminationism
Employment
Ethnic cleansing
Ethnic joke
Ethnocide
Forced conversion
Freak show
Gay bashing
Gendercide
Genocide
Group libel
Hate crime
Hate group
Hate speech
Homeless dumping
Housing
Indian rolling
LGBT hate crime
Linguistic prescription
Lynching
Mortgage
Murder Music
Name and shame
Occupational segregation
Pogram
Purge
Racist music
Race war
Religious persecution
Scapegoating
Segregation academies
Slavery
Slut shaming
Trans bashing
Victimization
Wife selling
Witch hunt

Discriminatory policies

Segregation (age, racial, religious, sex)
Age of candidacy
Blood quantum
Cleanliness of blood
Apartheid
Ethnocracy
Gender roles
Gerontocracy
Ghetto benches
Internment
Jewish quota
Jim Crow laws
MSM blood donor controversy
Numerus clausus (as religious or facial quota)
Nuremberg laws
Racial quota
Redlining
Same sex marriage (laws and issues prohibiting)
Sodomy law
Ugly law

Other forms

Anthropocentrism
Arab supremacy
Black supremacy
Pregnancy
Supremacism
White supremacy

Countermeasures

Affermative action
Cultural assimilation
Empowerment
Human rights
Multiculturalism
Racial integration
Social integration
Toleration

Related topics

Allophila
Anti cultural sentiment
Assimilation
Bigotry
Diversity
Eugenics
Multiculturalism
Neurodiversity
Oppression
Police brutality
Pollitical correctness
Prejudice
Religious intolerance
Speciesism
Stereotypes

And finally

Discrimination portal

some people have crap attacks over some really small things.

Counting forms and policies, that's 126 different types of discrimination (although there are multiple overlapping categories like Homophobia and LGBT hate crimes).

... Possible pitfalls:

Am I guilty of "Adultism" if I believe that a person should be a certain age before he or she should be allowed to vote, drive and drink alcohol?

Am I guilty of "Elitism" if I believe that only the best of the best should be picked when training astronauts?

Am I guilty of "Weightism" if I believe that elite soldiers should be in peak physical condition?

Oh, and I think pedophobia might be an *actual* phobia in a psychiatric sense...

There was a case recently mentioned in the Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/1 ... 75122.html

It's discrimination only if a person is de-selected for education, employment, housing, and so forth solely on the basis of a feature or a condition that is totally unrelated to the courses, duties, reliability, and so forth of the person being de-selected. For example:

Deleting a person's threads for a clear violation of a social website's rules is not discrimination.

Deleting a person's threads for being of the "wrong" gender to post on a particular topic is discrimination.

One person's crumb is another person's loaf.

I think this whole trend about finding driscrimination everywhere is more about forcing people to change or hide how they think and feel instead of being about preventing them from acting in certain ways that harm others. Beliefs need to be changed voluntarily through education and logic, not because society has made it taboo to let it be known that you hold a certain unpopular opinion.

Exactly. In the same vein when NT's accuse me of being irrational or having a pissy fit, even when they are flagrantly being ableist against either myself or other autistics.

Even though saying that is rude and you probably have no control over your reactions at those times so neither rationality nor pissy fit would be relevent, it's not discrimination to simply say something rude to you. It's rude, ill mannered, offensive to the person it's said to, insulting, and mean, but it's not discrimination. It's only discrimination if they deny you something based on their dislike of something about you that is covered in that big ole list of "isms".

Agreed: 100%

Some people can't seem to get it through their thick heads that a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome - valid or merely presumptive - is not a license to behave irrationally or to "have a pissy fit" whenever things don't go their way. Nor is it "ablist" discrimination to tell anyone "You are being rude- knock it off!". If a person can not handle being out in public, then maybe they should just stay at home.

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Indulge in all of them!

Be a truly descriminating individual.

For starters lets bring back the "Anti-Masonic Party". Dont laugh- that was a real political party in early america- and a major force for a long time.

Havent read the whole list but i think it lacks both anti-aspergianism, and it lacks neurotypical bashing.

Good ol' fashion misanthropy will suffice in this case...

I thought Terry Pratchett had invented that one. He tells of the Campaign for Equal Heights being in a terrible bind when a human takes on the name Stronginthearm, puts on a helmet and declares himself a dwarf, because he knows that he will be able to sell his metalwork for twice the price. The campaigners' problem is that pointing out that the man is over 6ft tall and not a dwarf is, in itself, heightist.


Discrimination based on looks? Also called being a bloke? I plead guilty, even though I try not to do it.


The art of giving the impression of being telepathic. Used to be a popular carnival sideshow act.


That one's got me beat. Either an ideology favouring binary numbers or code, or a prejudice against them?


And there I thought that is a practice, not an attitude.


A fear of sourdough?


That's what my bank did to me, for years and years. Am I entitled to compensation?

Is anything to be gained from making such fine discriminations among discriminatory attitudes and practices?

i don't use my autism as a carte blanche to be a rude as*hole, I'm thinking more in terms of being asked to complete tasks which are blatantly at odds with it. The average workplace is a veritable minefield of AS-NT friction. Probably why 85% of autistics are unemployed. Or being forced to accept abrupt changes is another example.

I have a couple of questions based upon your definition.

Let's talk about shaking hands. How is a person's ability to shake hands properly related to the courses, duties, reliability and so forth of the person being de-selected? What about eye contact? What about a disposition towards something. How does ones ability to project a positive attitude relate in anyway, shape or form to the courses, duties, reliability and so forth of the person being de-selected? What does one's attitude and disposition about life have to do with the ability of doing a particular job?

I can understand sales. You definitely do not want gloomy gus to be one of your salesmen.

Agreed 100%. No excuses for me on this one. If one does, they lose the high ground.

I do have a question. This is the issue with Occupy Wall Street and some of those who support. In their mind, they were told they had to do x, y, and z by those who were in charge of them as children growing up whether it be parents, teachers, the media or society itself. There were certain cultural tenets, especially the workplace, that was promoted, told and implied. In their mind, they did earn a job. What exactly does earn mean and what is the correct context to the definition?

How did they do wrong by following the tenets that were laid down before them by society and its' institutions? How was it their way exactly? What is your rationale Fnord? Are you telling me then a child can't trust what the elders of our society say? What are you premises that lead you to your conclusions about society and how did you derive them?

What exactly did they do wrong from elementary school to middle school to high school to college? What did they do wrong from the time they first went to college until they graduated?




Not sure if it is ablest discrimination but I can say it is vague. One can only alter his behavior if he or she knows what he or she is doing wrong and where his or her logic is wrong.




I disagree to an extent. Why wouldn't he go out in public, study the public, go to the library to determine what is rude and why it is? I have been doing this myself and I have some answers.

I do agree that at some point the person would probably be better at staying home or going somewhere else he can better fit into.

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Thomas, if you're hoping to change their minds you are not. Some of their ideas make no sense to me and to me seem absurd. They are basing their beliefs on American standards and values.

The only thing you can do my friend is for entertainment purposes and to help with your own critical thinking skills. I do have to admit that the ND and acceptance philosophy has logical flaws to it and when I have more time I will point them out and propose my own changes.

Thomas one thing I have learned is when you're in a debate in an argument with someone it may turn out that their position may turn out to be correct or partially correct. I have learned that I may have to change my position. Another thing I have learned is there are those who will stick to their position like glue no matter what logic, reasoning or emotional appeals you use.

Another thing I have learned Thomas, is even if society is wrong we're in no position to change it whatsoever. Our neurology is maybe 1/2 of 1% of the world's population I believe. Within our group and especially those who live in America a good chunk believes in society's tenets. Even if we are right, we're fighting a losing battle.