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29 Dec 2006, 11:05 pm

Free Saddam! :x

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29 Dec 2006, 11:10 pm

Ann Coulter and Melanie Philips should do a lesbian show for us.



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29 Dec 2006, 11:13 pm

I don't know of a Melanie Phillips, but sure.



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29 Dec 2006, 11:19 pm

She's a socially authoritarian 'conservative' old bat who writes for a morally bankrupt British tabloid newspaper. Her website is here (http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/).

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And I'm joking - I really wouldn't want to watch that! :D



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29 Dec 2006, 11:20 pm

For what purpose would we do this? He is the ex-ruler of a nation who we overthrew and he has shown himself capable of great crimes against humanity. If we free him, then either he will go off and likely commit more evils in an attempt to attain power, or he will be killed by some other person for his crimes. The first is unacceptable from most views of morality that have any regard for consequences, and the latter has a result no better than our own action. That being said, Saddam is free. Free from the constraints of living that is.



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29 Dec 2006, 11:33 pm

It's too late to free him, because he was executed already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6218485.stm


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29 Dec 2006, 11:59 pm

A brief obituary for Saddam Houssein.

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30 Dec 2006, 12:18 am

The world needs as few people as possible who have Malignant Personality Disorder. The question SHOULD be, Why can't we hang ALL of them??


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30 Dec 2006, 12:27 am

Scrapheap wrote:
The world needs as few people as possible who have Malignant Personality Disorder. The question SHOULD be, Why can't we hang ALL of them??


Exactly :wink:



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30 Dec 2006, 12:43 am

I don't really see why he needed to hang. He was done as soon as we captured him, mangy beard and all. They should have just let him rot in prison.


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30 Dec 2006, 12:47 am

I agree with NeoPlatonist.



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30 Dec 2006, 7:58 am

the whole thing is a nonsense.


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30 Dec 2006, 9:39 am

NeoPlatonist wrote:
I don't really see why he needed to hang. He was done as soon as we captured him, mangy beard and all. They should have just let him rot in prison.

Hanging him was the best option as far as the US, UK and remainder of the western world is concerned. It sends the right message to leaders of certain other nations. The message is very simple: f**k with us and you'll get your neck stretched. If all other things were equal (and I realise they're not!) it would mean the world is a marginally safer place due to this threat.

Anyway, I saw the news footage of him at the gallows, and must say he seemed to be taking it like a man. He was allowed a relatively dignified end — more than most of his victims were permitted.



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30 Dec 2006, 11:30 am

ascan wrote:
Hanging him was the best option as far as the US, UK and remainder of the western world is concerned. It sends the right message to leaders of certain other nations. The message is very simple: f**k with us and you'll get your neck stretched.


i don't know what to say



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30 Dec 2006, 11:50 am

f**k with us? What makes "us" right? We have the latest gadgets? Personally, if we were all quiet, earth people instead of a fast-paced techy society, I'd be happier but then whoever WOULD be the fast-techy society would have destroyed us a long time ago much like "we" do.

If anything, WE are the as*holes of the world, not them, we just make them turn "against us" because we are as*holes. Then, once they turn on us, we come up with labels such as 'rebeller' or 'terrorist' and refer to them as such; they are the enemy. It's always THEIR problem, we are totally innocent.

The above was sarcastic BS - Saddam committed these crimes in 1988 and had oodles of time in between to be caught and executed. Something happened in 2001 and Saddam got the blame even though he didn't do it. Saddam was not killed for what happened in 1988, he was killed for some other reason - he had to be killed for another reason because the logic of trying someone for 'war crimes' 13+ years later makes not one bit of sense. Not one. So why was he hung? Seems like he is a scape goat - there is no logic behind this mess. Hell, criminals in the States don't get "hung" or executed as fast as Saddam did. Saddam must be a recent record.

There were TWO Iraqi wars and the crimes were extremely fresh in the minds of the Kurds, so why wasn't he caught then? Why did the first Iraq war not deal with that? Doesn't make sense, does it? I'm sure there are BS excuses as to why a "murderer" could not be caught for years, despite the fact there wasn't a word of 'Saddams' astrocities until after 2001.



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30 Dec 2006, 12:18 pm

camphortree wrote:
ascan wrote:
Hanging him was the best option as far as the US, UK and remainder of the western world is concerned. It sends the right message to leaders of certain other nations. The message is very simple: f**k with us and you'll get your neck stretched.


i don't know what to say

Really?