Israeli policeman stated on facebook desire to 'slay arabs'

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15 Mar 2013, 4:14 pm

Apparently these are sort of individuals allowed to join Israel's supposedly morally superior security services.

Worth highlighting this guy wanted to kill all arabs. not just Palestinians. Turks, for some twisted reason.

http://electronicintifada.net/content/o ... rabs/12273

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One week before he shot Palestinian motorist Ziad Jilani in the head at point blank range, Israeli border policeman Maxim Vinogradov expressed on Facebook his wish to kill Arabs and Turks. And on his profile on another social media site, Vinogradov identifies himself as belonging to the extreme right, expresses his love for violence, names “undocumented Arab workers” as his favorite sport, his hobbies as “hitting and destroying things,” and for the category of favorite food, he lists “Arabs.”


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Translation of exchange between Maxim Vinogradov and a friend, who states “Exterminate Turkey and all the Arabs from the world.” Vinogradov replies : “I am with you, brother and with the help of God I will start this :)” to which friend responds, “Hehehe and you are capable of it. :)


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15 Mar 2013, 4:25 pm

I think you do a great service to the pro Israeli folks on WP. Anyone who indulges in your threads will ultimately come out with even more information and reason to support Israel. Someone will always come in and shed a different light either by revealing a whole truth, revealing a lie, seeing it from a more reasonable perspective, a wider perspective, etc. Do you even believe 100percent in what you're saying, or do you know that some people will get pissed off at what you say? And if so, do you get enjoyment out of it? And I mean that in all honesty.


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15 Mar 2013, 4:29 pm

i'm sorry but how on earth can you possibly put a spin on this where Israel comes up smelling of roses?

The guy is a blatant sociopathic murdering racist with state granted access to firearms. You cant make it up.

As for your point about me trying to provoke Israeli supporters, the analogous case could just as easilly be laid bare to individuals who post threads here regarding Palestinian/arab transgressions against Israel. Are you so opposed to balance?


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15 Mar 2013, 4:35 pm

Come back and let us know when you find an armed force or police force anywhere on the planet (other than the Swiss Guard, perhaps) whose members are entirely free from people with unacceptable views. Every population includes extremists. Israelis are no exception. However, you are attempting to hold up one as a representation of many.

Meanwhile, let us bear in mind that this has not gone unreported in the Israeli press:

http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-e ... r-1.426844

It also bears noting that the actions of the Justice Ministry and the State Prosecutor's Office are before the courts. Where else in the middle east would we expect such scrutiny of officials' decision making?

But don't let the whole story ever hold you back from telling a half-truth in order to attempt to score cheap political points.


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15 Mar 2013, 4:35 pm

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Israeli policeman stated on facebook desire to 'slay arabs'


So what? There's no doubt a much greater percentage of Arabs that want to slay Israelis.


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15 Mar 2013, 4:40 pm

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Israeli policeman stated on facebook desire to 'slay arabs'


So what? There's no doubt a much greater percentage of Arabs that want to slay Israelis.


No doubt, but first and foremost, average arabs dont have a "do what the f**k i want and get away with it" badge.

Secondly and just as importantly those arabs have been forced off their ancestral lands by a developed militarised complex with a carte blanche from the United States and its allies. I could easilly speculate were i in their shoes, I'd have a similar axe to grind.


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15 Mar 2013, 4:45 pm

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Come back and let us know when you find an armed force or police force anywhere on the planet (other than the Swiss Guard, perhaps) whose members are entirely free from people with unacceptable views. Every population includes extremists. Israelis are no exception. However, you are attempting to hold up one as a representation of many.

The fact that 'Israstine' is a tinderbox of ethnic tension and contentiality adds an important dimension to it. If a Police Service of Northern Ireland officer announced a intention to 'slaughter all taigs' I would expect to see a much greater furore that from a constabulary elsewhere in the British Isles or the broader world.
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Meanwhile, let us bear in mind that this has not gone unreported in the Israeli press:

http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-e ... r-1.426844

Yes, and I'm sure that Tequila will be fast to remind us that 'haaretz' is Israels one and only left wing news source.

Good luck finding any muslim or arab papers that are sympathetic to Israel.


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15 Mar 2013, 4:47 pm

thomas81 wrote:
Apparently these are sort of individuals allowed to join Israel's supposedly morally superior security services.

Worth highlighting this guy wanted to kill all arabs. not just Palestinians. Turks, for some twisted reason.

http://electronicintifada.net/content/o ... rabs/12273

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One week before he shot Palestinian motorist Ziad Jilani in the head at point blank range, Israeli border policeman Maxim Vinogradov expressed on Facebook his wish to kill Arabs and Turks. And on his profile on another social media site, Vinogradov identifies himself as belonging to the extreme right, expresses his love for violence, names “undocumented Arab workers” as his favorite sport, his hobbies as “hitting and destroying things,” and for the category of favorite food, he lists “Arabs.”


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Translation of exchange between Maxim Vinogradov and a friend, who states “Exterminate Turkey and all the Arabs from the world.” Vinogradov replies : “I am with you, brother and with the help of God I will start this :)” to which friend responds, “Hehehe and you are capable of it. :)


Until you write some posts condemning the killings of innocent Israeli civilians by Palestinians, in the same way you seem to condemn the killing of innocent Palestinians by Israelis, you lack the credibility needed to speak on this topic. Find yourself a new special interest other than hating Israel.



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15 Mar 2013, 4:50 pm

Israel is the worlds front line between the western neo-liberal mandate and 'the rest of the world'. That is why its a source of special interest to me.

That and the s**t it has been getting away with for the last 60 years in the name of western capitalism.


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15 Mar 2013, 4:57 pm

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Israel is the worlds front line between the western neo-liberal mandate and 'the rest of the world'. That is why its a source of special interest to me.

That and the sh** it has been getting away with for the last 60 years in the name of western capitalism.


What did Israel get away with in the name of western capitalism in 1948, and what is the "western neo-lineral mandate?


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15 Mar 2013, 5:02 pm

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thomas81 wrote:
Israel is the worlds front line between the western neo-liberal mandate and 'the rest of the world'. That is why its a source of special interest to me.

That and the sh** it has been getting away with for the last 60 years in the name of western capitalism.


What did Israel get away with in the name of western capitalism in 1948, and what is the "western neo-lineral mandate?


want me to write a dissertation?


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15 Mar 2013, 5:07 pm

I really wish both sets of bigots in PPR would just shut up about Israel/Palestine. We get it, Israel/Palestine is great and Palestineans/Israelis are a bunch of murderous, anti-semetic/Islamphobic cowards who keep attacking innocent people. Do you really need to post a thread on every news story that supports your world view? It was bad enough when it was just Tequilla, but now thomas81 is doing just the same...



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15 Mar 2013, 5:12 pm

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I really wish both sets of bigots in PPR would just shut up about Israel/Palestine. We get it, Israel/Palestine is great and Palestineans/Israelis are a bunch of murderous, anti-semetic/Islamphobic cowards who keep attacking innocent people. Do you really need to post a thread on every news story that supports your world view? It was bad enough when it was just Tequilla, but now thomas81 is doing just the same...


I posted this as a counterbalance of sorts to Tequilas recent thread on the Egyptian media. Not sure why you chose to vent your frustration here rather than there.

If you dont want to participate, no one is forcing you to click on the thread.


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15 Mar 2013, 5:15 pm

thomas81 wrote:
knowbody15 wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
Israel is the worlds front line between the western neo-liberal mandate and 'the rest of the world'. That is why its a source of special interest to me.

That and the sh** it has been getting away with for the last 60 years in the name of western capitalism.


What did Israel get away with in the name of western capitalism in 1948, and what is the "western neo-lineral mandate?


want me to write a dissertation?


Fair enough, I will look this up for the sake of wanting to know where people come from. I was hoping you could pitch it to me in a few sentences though lol.


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15 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

I chose this thread because it was higher in the thread listings at the time. I agree that Tequila's thread was equally ridiculous.

A good counterbalance isn't "Israelis are monsters too!", it's "both Israel and Palestine/Arabs do bad things". And don't feel compelled to respond to Tequila's every thread. I get annoyed that he paints Britain as overrun with benefit scrounging suicide bombers and an incompetent NHS and most of the foreign users on here lap it up, but sometimes you've just got to let it go.



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15 Mar 2013, 5:26 pm

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thomas81 wrote:
Israel is the worlds front line between the western neo-liberal mandate and 'the rest of the world'. That is why its a source of special interest to me.

That and the sh** it has been getting away with for the last 60 years in the name of western capitalism.


What did Israel get away with in the name of western capitalism in 1948, and what is the "western neo-lineral mandate?


want me to write a dissertation?


Fair enough, I will look this up for the sake of wanting to know where people come from. I was hoping you could pitch it to me in a few sentences though lol.


ok none of this should really be news, but to nutshell it-
*The way that the british mandate and zionist militias forced the nakba creating the largest displacement of Palestinians in their history-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba_Day

*the way that America cynically sought to exploit Israel as a satellite during the cold war (to prevent it becoming a soviet ally) thus it became an outpost of American style capitalism.

*the associated disproportionate amount of American aid Israel recieves (40%) that goes to bankroll their military campaign to further undermine arab controlled territory.

*The way in which since the nakba, Israel has been preventing Palestinian migrants from re-entering Palestinian territory.


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