Former US marine seeks political asylum in Russia

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15 Apr 2013, 2:53 pm

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US citizen, former marine, seeks political asylum in Russia
02.10.2012

http://english.pravda.ru/society/storie ... _asylum-0/

Former Marine of the U.S. Army Patrick Downey appealed to the President of the Russian Federation asking to grant him political asylum. Patrick told Pravda.Ru that at home he was facing severe punishment. Downey said that it was caused by the material he intended to publish about the U.S. support of the Georgian leader Saakashvili, including the war with South Ossetia.

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While Patrick does not read Russian newspapers, he still thinks they are free press unlike those in his home country.

"You have lots of newspapers, but you write about various things, including the views that are not shared by your government. This, I believe, is freedom. In the U.S., there is a taboo: no writing objectionable things about corporations or people close to the White House - it's suppressed, at times, in a very tough manner. Our country is ruled by banking syndicates and this is a real problem."

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[While working as ] a private teacher of English to Georgian oligarch Bidzina Ivanishvili ... Downey obtained documents [that] confirmed the fact of funding of anti-Russian activities of Ivanishvili by the U.S. In a document dated 2007, it was stated that the World Bank for Reconstruction and Development, 60 percent of whose shares is owned by the United States, transferred $12 million to the bank of Ivanishvili.

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Downey returned to the U.S. and decided to make this information public, but faced strong opposition. Press refused to publish the sensational material. As a result, the former Marine became known to the Government ...

"I began to feel that it was simply dangerous for me to be in the U.S.," said Downey. "All documents that I have uploaded online were removed, my videos on YouTube were blocked and I was threatened. The threats also came from the Georgian side, which demanded silence."



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15 Apr 2013, 4:03 pm

There is nothing to stop a U.S. citizen from applying for an immigrant visa in another country. It might cost him his citizenship in the U.S. but the U.S does not prohibit people from leaving the U.S. to live elsewhere. As long as this Marine is properly discharged he can go where he wishes.

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15 Apr 2013, 4:20 pm

He could go to North Korea ala Joe Dresnok and live like a VIP.

It won't matter if he is discharged from the USMC or not. What they gonna do?


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15 Apr 2013, 5:34 pm

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15 Apr 2013, 5:39 pm

why is he so keen to go to Russia anyway?


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15 Apr 2013, 7:08 pm

thomas81 wrote:
why is he so keen to go to Russia anyway?


Apparently because of their fabulously free press. Apparently he's never heard of Anna Politskovskaya.

Seriously, though... So the US helps out Georgia. Hardly news. So Saakashvili's kind of a jack#$$. Also hardly new. What makes him think Putin's better?



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15 Apr 2013, 7:26 pm

American marine defects to Russia?

Where have I heard that storyline before?

Hope he isnt a marine sharpshooter.

If he changes his mind a decides to come home- I hope he doesnt land a job at the Texas Schoolbook Depository!



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15 Apr 2013, 10:51 pm

ruveyn wrote:
There is nothing to stop a U.S. citizen from applying for an immigrant visa in another country. It might cost him his citizenship in the U.S. but the U.S does not prohibit people from leaving the U.S. to live elsewhere. As long as this Marine is properly discharged he can go where he wishes.

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Lee Harvey Oswald in fact was able to keep his American citizenship, and had no problem returning to the US with his Soviet born wife - at the height of the Cold War. Then again, it's possible there was more to his story than was ever revealed.

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16 Apr 2013, 3:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
There is nothing to stop a U.S. citizen from applying for an immigrant visa in another country. It might cost him his citizenship in the U.S. but the U.S does not prohibit people from leaving the U.S. to live elsewhere. As long as this Marine is properly discharged he can go where he wishes.

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Lee Harvey Oswald in fact was able to keep his American citizenship, and had no problem returning to the US with his Soviet born wife - at the height of the Cold War. Then again, it's possible there was more to his story than was ever revealed.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Oswald's ability to return to the US from Russia in 1962 may have been due to backlash against the McCarthyism of the 1950s.

In Kent v. Dulles in 1958, The Supreme Court prohibited the government from refusing passports from individuals with communist beliefs. As such, the government probably couldn't deny Oswald re-entry into the United States even if they wanted to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_v._Dulles

The Kent decision was even specifically mentioned as a barrier from preventing Oswald from re-entry in the Warren Commission Report on the JFK assassination...

That section must have left a bitter taste in Earl Warren's mouth... He was both chairman of the Commission and the Chief Justice presiding over Kent v. Dulles.